Dave B. Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 While paging through BarnFinds.com, I ran across this car listed as being for sale on ebay. I searched the AACA site, but couldn't find any reference to it. Looks to be a bit pricey, but who knows? Someone might strike a deal! https://www.ebay.com/itm/253613026992?rmvSB=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Packard-Model-1108/253613026992?hash=item3b0c83aeb0:g:klQAAOSwKoFa84Vw&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I'm the guy on barn finds trying to explain to everyone that the car has new coachwork. I guess people think it is possible that something that would be a 7 figure project (to start) would just pop up on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Not that I doubt your experience with cars of this stature, have you actually seen it in person ? I know the chance of a genuine car like this being listed on ebay is slight to say the least, but we are dealing with a family member {daughter} that might have no connection with the regular Classic car world. Perhaps she has had good luck selling household items on ebay and thought why not try the car and see what happens. Stranger things have happened in the strange world of vintage cars. Is there any obvious signs that this is a replacement body apart from the curious marketing? Many of us have not seen a car like this except in photo's and lack your knowledge of what a genuine example should look like "in the metal". Once again I am not doubting your verdict of real vs replacement however can you share the things about the car itself that don't ring true. Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Maybe their landscaper helped with the ad and the posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Well, a lot of hints that it's not a factory nor period custom body. Doors have no holes yet for outside door handles. Door hinges look unfinished and not aligned. New wood inside, with latch cobbled on, not fitted correctly. Metal at top of doors, where it attaches to wood, odd projections for screws. Unfinished cowl with no obvious provision for fitting a dash. New wood buck for making a trunk, suggesting the "continuation" of making a body. That's at first glance. Could still be a handsome project, as long as one realizes what they're buying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The lack of doors in the hood sides should be a tip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Some guys get pretty sneaky about that one-off stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 One of the replicated Buehrig Model As Bernie? I believe a couple reside in FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Yes, Gordon's daily driver. I have always liked the style. Gurney Nutting did it best. Lots of louvers. But it is a popular style. I even have notebooks from my school days with rear bodies ending perpendicular to the axle. Imagine those old coachbuilders getting their hands on just a few of the tools available to a hobbyist today. The story on the old guy that left the topic car behind must be a good one. I like that kind of stuff. Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I agree that all of the evidence points to a replica body. However a fellow old car guy that I knew locally was at about the same stage on the restoration of a early LaSalle roadster when he unfortunately passed away. The car was a genuine Roadster {possibly a Cabriolet, it was several years ago and my memory the exact body style is slightly foggy} but when bought the body was badly rusted, from the wet PNW climate. He had a very skilled metal man remake nearly all the sheet metal essentially re- creating a new body. Could this car be a 95 % finished similar story ? How would the classic car world view a correctly re-bodied badly damaged Packard Victoria? Perhaps not as valuable as an original body car however I would think a lot more legitimate than a re-bodied lesser car. I am not saying this is the case with this car but how would you know for sure without further study of the car in question. Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 There are no “missing” or “unknown” Packard Custom Dietrich cars left. Like Duesenberg, they have been tracked for MANY years, and several books have been published on them. If it were real, it would be worth 750k as it sits. And it would have sold in ten minutes. A real one can be purchased currently, at a multiple of the 750........several multiples. Just look in Edward Blend’s book, if you can find one....they sell for over one thousand dollars............yup, I have seen them bring that kind of money recently. I got mine for twenty bucks! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Thanks Ed !, That clears up any doubt. There are a few of us that find cars like this very interesting but have no first hand experience with them. Classic cars are something that I have an academic interest in, but like many of us no possible chance of owning. And custom body Classic's are obviously a significant step beyond standard production body Classics. The only Packard I will likely ever own is my 1918 series E 2 1/2 ton truck, basket case. I like it a lot, however barely from the same planet as a Packard 12 car. Greg in Canada Edited May 16, 2018 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligermachine Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 looks like a nice real steel body to me . the price ?? wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 It it were real the seller would be advertising it as such and the price would be several multiples of what he is asking and it would have sold instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Ed which Blend book, curious as I have one, the auto, autobiography, a great read. I am not looking to sell, but maybe i can call it an investmemt! ? Great to hear, BTW, you reading up on PACKARD!!! ? Edited May 17, 2018 by Steve_Mack_CT (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 If it's "The Magnificent Packard12 of 1934" I have an autographed copy given to me by Ed. I suspected by the way it is written that it originally was written as a dissertation for a Master's or other degree. Ed confirmed my suspicions and admitted that it was not accepted as such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Also the car advertised has no cowl ventilators as originally built. Totally new body but nevertheless would make a beautiful, if fake, car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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