alsancle

Pierce Arrow

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2 hours ago, alsancle said:

Who knows (Eddy?)  how many of the production Silver Arrows had sidemounts and how many did not?  Also breakdown of 12 vs 8.   Is the 12 warmed over like the show cars?

AJ, after acquiring my production SA coupe in 2006 I searched the PAS master database for any 1934-35 SAs ever registered with PAS (since 1957).  The results were:  1934 8s = 4, 1934 12s = 6, 1935 8s = 1, 1935 12s = 2.  Grand total of 13.  (BTW, my 1934 is an 8 without sidemounts--which I think shows off the lines better, although it renders trunk space absolutely minimal).

 

Estimated production each year:  The production SAs used the Y body code, and sequential body numbers did not distinguish between 8s and 12s, although the engineering prefix to the body number did (244 = 8 and 344 = 12).  PAS records the highest known 1934 sequential Y body number as 43 (began at "1")--therefore, at least 43 SAs were built that year.  For 1935, the sequential body numbers began at 100, and the highest known number is 104, meaning at least 5 were built in 1935.  PAS records include not only cars registered with us but any identifiable cars in the few surviving employee notes or service records.

 

PAS records do not indicate whether a car has sidemounts, but with 13 extant, that could be a long winter evening's project with Google Images.

 

To my knowledge, by 1934-35 there was only the 462 cid V-12 and it was not warmed over for production cars--not including Ab Jenkins's 1934 Bonneville run.

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2 hours ago, alsancle said:

Not sure what is better looking.  The dude in the car,  or the car itself.

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I've long been an admirer of Pierce-Arrows and am pleased that my youngest son recently announced that Pierce-Arrow was his favorite kind of car. But that's just ugly. 


Nice car, though.

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Are congratulations in order?  I won't comment on the relative attractiveness of man and car but will say you look great together!

 

Just in time for the PAS Annual Meet in Rohnert Park, CA (near Santa Rosa), July 9-13 with add-on thru Monday the 16th.  Let me know, please, if you and/or the coupe can make it.

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7 hours ago, Matt Harwood said:

Nice car, though.

 

I have a buddy that reacts to Pierce Arrow like it was Viagra.   If you listen long enough you start to realize they are grossly underappreciated.  Ball bearings on the spring shackles instead of bushings and what not.

 

Been lucky enough to drive 3 different models,  all V12 (2 36 and 1 35) and the power and speed is really impressive.  I've never really gotten going  fast in the same era Packard V12 (never over 30 mph)  so I can't give first hand comparisons, unfortunately.

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2 minutes ago, alsancle said:

I've never really gotten going  fast in the same era Packard V12 (never over 30 mph)

And unless the gearing has been changed, you wouldn't be comfortable doing so.  🙂 Hell, I drive my 1918 Pierce 48-B-5 dual valve, 7'8" tall with the top up, almost twice that--55 mph.  This will get the Packard boys and girls spun up!

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Now George,  lets not start trouble with the Packard guys!    I usually think of the Packard 12 as a work of art to look at and the Pierce 12 as the workhorse.

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