Ben Bruce aka First Born

Modified 263 for my 1950 41D

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  I have decided, in my 2nd [or 3rd] childhood, to "HOP UP" a 263 for my '50. The plan is custom pistons for a bore as large as practical. Cam grind for better performance. A little head work. 

  To start of, I acquired a 1951 263 from Evan Ritter over in East Texas. It has been sitting in his shop for several years. He said 17. It is from a Dynaflow car, but he had a standard crank. I will need a Bell Housing and flywheel. Looks like that will come from Pete Phillips.  Need a few lifters, fortunately, Bill Stoneberg came to the rescue.  

 Pictures of the Engine as found.   A little grotty!.  Just a LITTLE rust.   I have seen worse oil pans.    I will attempt, over the next few days, to bring this up to date

 

 

  Enjoy

 

  Ben

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Well, this will be GOOD one to follow.

 

Are you going to DUAL CARB it?

 

At such a young age, YOU will do just fine.

 

I will be a nice guy, and not kid you so hard,

 

Dale in Indy

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 After dis assembly, the block and head made the trip to the machine shop. Al is just a few years my junior and has been a motorhead almost all his life. He was a noted drag racer and engine builder in his younger years. 

  The block has been bored .125 over. Actually, 85mm. This will give about 285 ci. Pistons and rings are in the pipeline, due around 1st of June. Pistons are supposed to give about a 9.5/1 cr.    Crank is ready!   Mains .020, rods .010.  Mains would have done .010 but bearings were not available.  Bearings are here from Terrell Machinery in De Leon, TX. As well as timing chain, cam gear, cam bearings and crank gear.  Terrell has the water pump as well.

 

  I have done the oil pump and rocker arm assembly. On the shelf awaiting their time.

 

  Speaking of oil pump. I am planning on a full flow filter system. I have read several articles on how to do that. I would like to hear from any of you out there that has done this modification.  Are you happy with it?  Disappointed? 

 

  How is this for an up to date tool??

 

  Ben

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Not much to report.  I did get the water pump back from Terrell. A thing of beauty. 

  I had to lick my calf over on the rocker arm assembly.  Sort of.  I had forgotten to clean the oil passages in each of the rocker arms. And did they need cleaning!So glad I remembered when I did. 

 

  Received update from piston builder and cam grinder.  Pistons scheduled for manufacturing about May 24.  Cam grinder has checked and surfaced the lifters and will be on the cam shortly.

 

  Now !   How about some help from some one out there?  I believe I will air condition the car. And perhaps power steering.  I would REALLY, REALLY like to see some compressor mounts/brackets and PS pump mount/brackets you have used. I hate reinventing the wheel [  oops, the brackets] Some pics of said brackets off the engine and on the engine without pump and compressor would be wonderful.  

 

  Ben

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B4 we know it, it will be running.

 

As a kid I always LOVED the sound of a Straight Eight with a gutted muffler.  We would run up the RPM's in 1st. or 2nd, then let off, and hear the roar.

 

Keep on keeping on Ben,

 

Dale in Indy

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10 hours ago, First Born said:

 

  I had to like my calf over on the rocker arm assembly.  Sort of.  I had forgotten to clean the oil passages in each of the rocker arms. And did they need cleaning!So glad I remembered when I did. 

 

  Ben

 

For you non rural's, what Ben means is... he had to "lick"  that calf over again, in other words he didn't get the rocker arm assembly clean enough the first time so had to do it over again. Don't know how many times I heard my mom say that when I was growing up, especially about cleaning my room.  

 

Sounds like that '50 is on the way to becoming a full fledged restomod Ben...COOL!!!!

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Ben

 

Not sure what you are thinking of for AC but might be good to contact Vintage Air and see what they might have to offer for straight 8's. I would guess the some one has done it before.

 

Gary

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Lamar, thank you for proof reading. 

 

  I do not intend to do any thing that can not be bolted or unbolted. Thinking an AC unit that hangs under the dash. Think a Mark IV.  Power steering will be a "ram" similar  to early vetts. All bolt on. Steering column  will be untouched. And a very astute straight eight lover will , in all probability, be the only one to notice the engine change. Except for manifold, EFI and HEI.

 

  Gary, all I have found from Vintage is universal brackets that have to be modified. Just hoping to see what others have done. I have seen a couple of installations, but the brackets are always hidden by the compressors.  

 

  Thanks to both of you

 

  Ben

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Yep,,,,some compressors have a way of hiding the mounting bracket, but a mirror on a stick can give YOU a good look, IMO.

 

All you need is a LOOK, then shoot a photo of such from down under, can't be to tough to make.

 

Dale in Indy 

 

 

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Chins up! If it was too easy every tuner drivin' kid would be snapping these oldies up and putting in a wankle engine and a fart pipe!

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Been a quite period. Hurry up and wait.   Block is done. Crank sitting in the garage, wrapped in a heavy plastic bag just waiting.  Cleaning bolts and small pieces. REALLY exciting!!  

 

  Hang with me. I promise more to com.

 

  Ben

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  Been two weeks!!  Too busy having FUN. Not.  Our son was helping remodel wifey's bathroom. CORRECTION!  I was helping him. I cannot cut a straight line in a piece of lumber with a table saw.

 

  Smitty [Dale] , I thought I answered your crank weight question, but do not see it on here.   Probably did not "submit".

  So, I do not know. More than this old fart wants to try lifting. The engine hoist handles it, though.

 

  Brought the cleaned, bored block home. Pistons have been made. Fitting new pins, last I heard. I was hoping they are "in the mail" but no such message has arrived.

 

  We , son and I, did get a trailer hitch installed so the tear drop can be pulled. 

 

  Pictures as soon as I can get them downloaded.

 

  Later

  Ben

 

  

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I believe I read once that the big straight eight crank weighs 113 pounds, could be wrong.

 

Keep on, KEEPING ON, YOU look good standing near the VISOR, don't ya just hate me?  

 

I'm watching, so keep the info/pictures coming. 

 

Cutting a STRAIGHT line on the table saw,,,,,,,well that's what the fence is for, hehe.

 

Dale in Indy

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  A small update. Some GOOD and a little bad.

 

  The block is home. Washed and primed. Will paint final color after assembly.

  Yesterday I received the msg "pistons were picked up by UPS".  Arrive Friday. Happy days.

   About lunch time today, while having coffee with my bride of 40 years, received a call from machine shop that is doing the head. Oh boy, things are falling into place!  NOT.   #1 exhaust valve seat is cracked.  I have located a head at good ole Pete's.  A '53, but it should work. Hope to get it early next week. Maybe the flywheel and housing as well.  Then the only unknown is the cam. I have sent an e mail to D Elgin, requesting an update. Hope to hear soon.

 

  Sorry, still have not downloaded pics. Can you say "procrastinator"?

 

  Ben

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  Me again, folks!

    Pistons came in Friday. Beautiful!  Heavier than I expected. But they are beautiful. If a piston can be beautiful.

 

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Water jacket looks much better.

 

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    Water pump from Terrell.

 

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  Waiting still for the cam.  Saturday will go to Pete's and hopefully come home with some more parts. 

 

  I can't seem to get the pics in the post, just at the end, but you can see them any way. I hope.

 

  Ben

 

 

 

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Ben I moved the pics around for you...  did you try placing your cursor below the text where you wanted the picture then clicking the add ( + ) button on the file picture?

 

You sound like a kid at Christmas. And yes pistons can be pretty and them are. ;)

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Ben,  You may want to check out POR15 engine paint.  I put it on my 47  or 8 or 10 years ago and it still looks like new. Just done get it on any skin unless you want to be wearing it for awhile.

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