1920's Dodge Brothers Transmission?

[1940_Buick]

In with a bunch of Model T parts I recently bought was this transmission. It was said to be from a late teens to early 1920’s Dodge Brothers.  Can anyone identify it?

[JayG]

Definitely Dodge.  Going out on a limb here to say 1921 based on the number on the side of the case.  I have a later one with the same shifter but mine has the speedo drive in the top.  Yours doesn't.

[Bob Scafani]

used in 1922-23, will fit 1917-1923.  

[1940_Buick]

Thanks guys!  Now just have to find it a new owner.

While a Dodge Brothers touring is on my "someday list" I don't have room to keep everything.

Edited September 22, 2015 by 1940_Buick (see edit history)

[db17]

Hello, Gentlemen, 

Since we are on the topic of transmissions. Can anyone tell me if the guts of a 23 Dodge trans fit a 1917 Dodge trans? I eed to find replacement gears for my 1917.

Thanks Steve!!

[JACK M]

Maybe the answer is to replace yours with this one since Bob says it will fit.

I would think that 40_Buick could take a look inside since he want to find a new home for it anyway.

[dwollam]

Bob, what denotes it being 22-23? How is it different than 20 and earlier? 

 

Dave

[Tom V.]

Care to sell it?  I’m interested.  I need at the least the speedometer drive gear. 

[RAH]

Guys, With the lever for compound clutch it is after '19 and since it does not have 'lock in neutral' it should be from '19 to '23. The internal gears should be interchangeable from around '16 - '17 to at least '23. With some slight variations of placement of and direction of the speedometer drive gear.

Edited November 18, 2019 by RAH
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[30DodgePanel]

On 11/16/2019 at 2:34 PM, Tom V. said:

Care to sell it?  I’m interested.  I need at the least the speedometer drive gear. 

 

Tom, 

since this post is almost 5 years old, you may want to PM the original poster 1940_Buick directly. Otherwise he may never see your request. 

 

Good luck. I hope he still has it.

Edited November 19, 2019 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history)

[Bob Scafani]

On 12/2/2015 at 8:13 PM, dwollam said:

Bob, what denotes it being 22-23? How is it different than 20 and earlier? 

 

Dave

Hi Dave,

 

the 22-23 has roller bearings on the cluster gear, there is a bulge on the idler mount to accommodate the larger gears? The shifting shaft detents are horizontal instead of vertical, the speedo gear drive is reversed and a different ratio. This transmission is unusual in that it doesn't appear to have a speedo drive.

[RAH]

3 hours ago, Bob Scafani said:

Hi Dave,

 

the 22-23 has roller bearings on the cluster gear, there is a bulge on the idler mount to accommodate the larger gears? The shifting shaft detents are horizontal instead of vertical, the speedo gear drive is reversed and a different ratio. This transmission is unusual in that it doesn't appear to have a speedo drive.

I did not notice the original query was that old. Bob, Isn't the speedo drive behind hat cardboard tag?

[dwollam]

Thanks Bob!

[T VanOss]

I am looking for the speedometer drive gear assembly  for my 1920 DB Touring.  And a inner cable too if you should have one. 

[Bob Scafani]

On 11/18/2019 at 9:57 AM, RAH said:

Guys, With the lever for compound clutch it is after '19 and since it does not have 'lock in neutral' it should be from '19 to '23. The internal gears should be interchangeable from around '16 - '17 to at least '23. With some slight variations of placement of and direction of the speedometer drive gear.

It looks like the boss is there but not drilled for the speedo drive.

[Tom V.]

There were 2 similar but different speedometer gear assemblies. One stood higher out of the transmission than the other and the gear had a lower helix to it.