JRHaelig Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I tried several search queries here, but got back either zero topics or 8,000 topics, so I'll introduce the question anew...... A guy in Belgium is very interested in my '39 Buick. Modest car, under $10,000. I had a phone conversation with him and he's ready to send money. He is getting a pick-up estimate from the shipper he has used before, and since I am 30 miles from the NY/NJ ports ground transportation won't be an obstacle. I have asked him for a US previous seller reference. I can PM his name to any members here who want to know. (talking to you, my European brothers....) My thought is to talk to my bank about safety and try to set up a new account for the purpose of this transaction. Any other thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 When do you get paid? When our 39 Packard went overseas it was no different than a local sale. Like Scrooge said "I don't ship until the cash is in hand". The rest is logistics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHaelig Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 That's what I understand.....usually the buyer is more exposed than the seller. Then you just signed the title and sent it with the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Yeah in my case (Switzerland) they asked for a time affidavit stating I was owner selling it to blah blah it was pretty Straightforward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Issue you may have is buyer hesitation to pay directly believe you can hire an escrow service for a fee to speak to any concerns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demco32 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, JRHaelig said: I tried several search queries here, but got back either zero topics or 8,000 topics, so I'll introduce the question anew...... A guy in Belgium is very interested in my '39 Buick. Modest car, under $10,000. I had a phone conversation with him and he's ready to send money. He is getting a pick-up estimate from the shipper he has used before, and since I am 30 miles from the NY/NJ ports ground transportation won't be an obstacle. I have asked him for a US previous seller reference. I can PM his name to any members here who want to know. (talking to you, my European brothers....) My thought is to talk to my bank about safety and try to set up a new account for the purpose of this transaction. Any other thoughts? You can sent me an E-mail , I'm in Belgium and know how this works. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) On 7/23/2024 at 8:49 AM, JRHaelig said: I tried several search queries here, but got back either zero topics or 8,000 topics, so I'll introduce the question anew...... A guy in Belgium is very interested in my '39 Buick. Modest car, under $10,000. I had a phone conversation with him and he's ready to send money. He is getting a pick-up estimate from the shipper he has used before, and since I am 30 miles from the NY/NJ ports ground transportation won't be an obstacle. I have asked him for a US previous seller reference. I can PM his name to any members here who want to know. (talking to you, my European brothers....) My thought is to talk to my bank about safety and try to set up a new account for the purpose of this transaction. Any other thoughts? Talking on the phone is the most important thing - you are able to get a sense of who you are dealing with - if you sense something is not right you can not waste your time further. Bank wire transfer is best for payment - you know who the payment is coming from and other than cash it is the cheapest and most secure way to go for Buyer and Seller. Furnish a written Bill Of Sale for the actual amount paid by the Buyer. Once payment is received the car is “ sold “ - transfer title immediately to the Seller - do not leave it open. On international sales - the title may have to go to the shipping agent at the US Port. Regarding transport - do not get involved with it - make the vehicle available for pick up with a minimum 24 hour notice. Have someone present when the vehicle is loaded to take a video - that way the condition is documented as it leaves. Good Luck 🍀 Jim Transporting To Travel Traveling To Tell Stories From The Road Edited July 31 by Trulyvintage (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 And take pictures of the vehicle being loaded so they can be forwarded to the buyer and he will see the condition of the car when it left your control. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 i refuse to sell to anyone that wont come see the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Always talk with buyer by phone. Take lots of pictures as it sits at the shipping terminal. I've done it a number of times from Canada to Sweden. Make sure all your funds are in your account and hire a broker if you are nervous. I never did that, but I did meet the guys I was selling to in person when they were here on a buying trip years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 7/23/2024 at 11:49 AM, JRHaelig said: He is getting a pick-up estimate from the shipper he has used before, and since I am 30 miles from the NY/NJ ports ground transportation won't be an obstacle. Probably shipping out of Port Elizabeth. Shipping is pretty straight forward. The company I used to ship to Gutenberg was something like E. I. S. or similar. Great people in the office, minimal paperwork. I think the guy at the warehouse was Tony the Russian. He was never happy but he growled and barked a lot. I sent about 20 cars over to Sweden up until I incorporated another business and didn't want a trail of overseas hobby money. Well worth it and establishing a contact for future. We were doing two cars per container for $3,000 up until 2010. Yarl Hedlund in Tidaholm was my contact but he passed on about 5 years ago. Drop the name, might do you some good. PM me if you get the transporter info. I can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 We sold my wife's Karmann Ghia to a guy in the Netherlands a few years ago. We used a local dealer, Jack Hunt in San Rafael, who handled everything. I know that's no help to you but could be helpful to anyone on the West Coast. I used to run a company that imported and shipped internationally. If you are handling this without a dealer, the contract is governed by Incoterms. These are terms that spell out your responsibility and the buyers regarding all the logistics. The one you want to use is "EXW – Ex Works" it's what we used to call FOB. "The seller’s responsibility is to make the goods available for pickup at the warehouse or factory. From that point forward, the buyer assumes responsibility for all costs and risks." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demco32 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 On 7/23/2024 at 7:45 PM, Trulyvintage said: Talking on the phone is the most important thing - you are able to get a sense of who you are dealing with - if you sense something is not right you can not waste your time further. Bank wire transfer is best for payment - you know who the payment is coming from and other than cash it is the cheapest and most secure way to go for Buyer and Seller. Furnish a written Bill Of Sale for the actual amount paid by the Buyer. Once payment is received the car is “ sold “ - transfer title immediately to the Seller - do not leave it open. On international sales - the title may have to go to the shipping agent at the US Port. Regarding transport - do not get involved with it - make the vehicle available for pick up with a minimum 24 hour notice. Have someone present when the vehicle is loaded to take a video - that way the condition is documented as it leaves. Good Luck 🍀 Jim Transporting To Travel Traveling To Tell Stories From The Road Concerns a sale to Belgium. There is no risk for the seller, only the buyer must trust that the seller will deliver the car in the condition as described or in the photo. Bank wire transfer is the only way such payment is possible. Furnish a written Bill Of Sale for the actual amount paid by the buyer : + vin number and details of the car. +signature of the seller.( Check the VIN number on the car and make sure it is clearly legible for the customs people. Check if the vin number on the car is the same as on the title!! , if not the car can't go on transport and stay in the USA ) In Belgium a title is not valid and is only required to register the car and get technical control. The tittle must go to the company that does the shipping for the buyer, they need this for customs and checks the vin number so that the tittle can be signed with an 'export' stamp from custom. The tittle must then be sent to the recipient of the shipment so that they can clear the car at customs and arrange all the paperwork for import. Only after all taxes have been paid can the buyer pick up the car from the shipment company. The shipment company will also provide a certificate for transport as proof that the car can be picked up and there will be no problem with roadside checks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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