30DodgePanel Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Ok, I have no idea what either of these are and hoping to learn something new. Anyone have an id on the roadster? Bonus points if anyone can id the thing above the license plate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregush Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Stop/Go/Slow tail light? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Maybe a newer one of these. There looks like a steering wheel on the right, the spot light and mirror is also a clue. I don't know when Stutz went to a floor shifter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Gregush said: Stop/Go/Slow tail light? That's what I was thinking too but I can't help but wonder is it made of wood (homemade looking) or aftermarket...? Probably is a tail light of sorts but I've just never seen one with that design. Thank you for your help gents Edited March 2 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMac Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) The car in question is a 1920 Stutz Series H Roadster. Same mechanicals (engine and drivetrain) as the red Bearcat pictured above but with a slightly longer chassis and slightly wider body. It still had the side shifter/handbrake but this is located inside the body tub. Curiously, the location of the shifter/handbrake makes the drivers door somewhat useless. The year of this Stutz Roadster can be somewhat zeroed-in as the 1919 Stutz range were equipped with Rudge wire wheels. This car has Buffalo (Houk) wheels which were used in 1920 and beyond. Also, in 1921, exterior door handles were added to all Stutz Tourers and Roadsters. The car looks to be well used and is missing its externally mounted horn and top clamps. Edited March 2 by PMac (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Houk wire wheels were first offered as an option on 1914 Stutz cars, that was the first year of Houk manufacture. They became Stutz standard equipment in 1917. True 1919 Stutz carried Rudge wire wheels and Stutz switched back to Houk for 1920 and the rest of 4 cylinder production. Houk hubcaps 1918 and earlier have an octagon for the wrench while 1920 and later Houk design is a recessed hexagon as this Roadster is carrying. Does anyone know which style Houk was offering for the 1919 model year? That would be for other makes of cars than Stutz. Tail light on the Roadster is aftermarket along with a couple of other items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 19 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said: Ok, I have no idea what either of these are and hoping to learn something new. Anyone have an id on the roadster? Bonus points if anyone can id the thing above the license plate. WOW, Narrow whitewalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtech Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Second one is a Model T Ford. maybe 24ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 I'd sure like to know what that tail light setup is made out of and any photos of it in old catalogs if someone comes across it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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