timcarguy Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Found this barn find and guy wants an offer what is a fair price for what you see I know it’s not complete. Motor is complete thanks for any comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 My first impulse is $3000, but that’s probably high....Dodges are great, reliable cars, but unrestored sedans of that period are not in high demand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 Thanks I do appreciate the input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayG Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 About 5 years ago I bought a 26 4door in much better shape than that for $2000. That one is pretty banged up and the doors don't look like they align right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Thanks for your input sorry as I said the pictures aren’t the best the doors see to be ok and maybe the one was ajar when I snapped the photo. but not sure all the good parts are there to be found. so if I offer 1000or less would I be to low? tganks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 What year? Looks '22 ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 The owner saying it’s 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Timcarguy, That is definitely a '22 Type A sedan as far as I can see ,depending on upholstery. Type A had striped grey broadcloth Type B (business) had leather and the front seat was able to fold forward to get packages into the rear. I do notice it has the original Leece Neville 'FatMan' steering wheel. Where is the car located? I purchased one very much similar condition from a fellow at a tax lien auction. One thing to consider is these disk wheels are one year only and first year for disk replacing previous wire wheels. The '23 disk wheels are different where the disk fastens to the rim. Anyone taking on this project should be able to do Much of your own wood work as the cost of a restoration shop will make it economically unfeasible to ever recoup any investment value. In this current state, given there are many things not readily evident, would be as mentioned $2,000 to $4,000 Enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Thanks for all the advice!!!!! this site is awesome!!!! i have 2 projects going that are about done 67 firebird 67 VW bug I guess I can’t stop Thanks again Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayG Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 You don't mention anything about the mechanics. Does the engine turn over? Is the clutch stuck? Will it shift through the gears? Any signs of cracks in the block or water seepage? Radiator appears good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 First year of the true four door sedan. I only know of a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 I haven’t looked at the car over well but now I will as your questions give me things to check. what else can I check. near chocolate town sound like the year is maybe rare being the first year of a 4 door? Is there a place to check numbers possibly thanks again for all the help tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithb7 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) SN plate might be found under floor mat on the passenger side. Front area next to firewall. A ‘28 I saw, it was located there. Additionally on the right side frame member. SN stamped in to frame. Just to the rear of the front spring rear hanger. Starting SN 761408, ending SN 826401. Individual production numbers for each model of 1922 DB car are not available. In a reference book I have it states that in 1922 DB cars had a multiple disc dry clutch. 2 wheel mechanical brakes. The second series of DB cars in 1922 had exterior door handles. (among other things)First series in 1922 did not. I suspect you have a series 2 car if it is indeed a 1922 year. Approximately 65,000 series 2 cars of all models were built. They so say about 98,310 series one cars were built in 1922. Edited April 7, 2020 by keithb7 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAH Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Guys, I see the starting crank sticking in front so wouldn't be too difficult to see if the engine is froze up. By the way, actually the 1919 sedan was the first transition from center door to four doors. Jay states several things I would look at before buying, such as is there a spare wheel and carrier on rear? Also condition of wood seats, seat springs, upholstery, inner / outer door knobs pillar lock, etc. Further the chassis number on '22 will be on the frame cross member just in front of the seat on Pass side and on (if there is one) the metal tag on the upper toe board. The chassis number switch to side of frame rear of front spring (where they would likely be prefixed by the letter "A") did not happen until the major frame change in '24. The engine number should be appx. 50,000 higher than that chassis number. The body number will be found stamped into the wood at the rear door threshold and possibly under the bottom of that door. I chose to NOT do a complete restoration of mine rather do all mechanical and safety things to get it roadworthy and leave it as a 'Barn Find' with all it's original 'Patina'. In addition there may have been originally a Stewart model 158 single bar bumper front and rear. Good Luck and enjoy the search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Sorry to mislead on the first year sedan. I do know you won't see many. I also think the outside door handle being added half way through the year was for touring cars as a sedan has to have an outside handle in order to get in. When you go to look at it take a good look at how the widows go up and down. It is pretty ingenious how they lock into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Three and a half years ago I bought a 36 four door sedan that magically showed up in a garage on my street. It hadn't moved for 40 years. It was pretty much complete but was clearly going to need a lot of work to get it driveable much less pretty. All I can say to you is that parts for a 22 will be a lot harder to get than they are for my 36. You better be able to handle much or all of the work yourself. If you pay $1000 for it you will double and triple that amount in short order just dealing with things like fuel system, cooling system, brakes, and tires. Start talking about paint and upholstery and triple what you've spent so far. Now look at online reports of what such a car is bringing these days. I was seduced and I'm not sorry about what I've spent and accomplished so far but I'm pretty sure that I couldn't get out of my car today what I have in it. If you have the means and the passion, the time and the energy, go for it. Otherwise you may want to pass on it, tempting though it may be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 First off I want to thank everyone who took the time to respond to my post. An information has been very helpful. the motor turns over and scrappers stole the hood the car is in pretty good shape as I see from all you have helped me to look at. thanks again and please keep the information coming I love learning new thanks Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcarguy Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Thanks Pete in pa I know it will be a big expense and project!!! i am so glad I came here and ask advice I like to restore as close to original as possible. Maybe this car is for the pros or street machine material. many advice on that statement. Just wondering thanks Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpgp1999 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 If it was left outside for years 500 in a shed with some protection 1000 in my opinion I think a good place to start is at 2000 and top out at 3000. my advice for anyone selling a car is get the motor to run. Even if it can only do it for a few seconds. If the motor was running (doesn’t have to charge can piss oil. Choke cough sputter smoke.but run) you can go up to 6000. In my opinion a running motor can double the asking price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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