Pete in PA

Any pics of this car and maybe your location? I'm curious about your stating that you have a D2 sedan and wondering what body style that is. Trunk or no trunk?

Are these cars or any parts from them still available? I've been out of the loop for quite a while.

Weirdbeard, Thanks for the good wishes. It looks like you have acquired an excellent original starting point for however far you want to go with it. A much better starting point than I had. MUCH better. The interior looks especially good. I see that you car did get teh sealed beam headlights conversion which is too bad. As far as I'm concerned it totally changes the look of the front end and finding the parts to undo that conversion is difficult and expensive. I wonder how much better lighting was with sealed beams? I see from looking at a map that you are about as far from me as is possible while staying in the same State so a meet up isn't too likely. However my son and I did make a road trip a couple of years ago to visit Jim Page in Mineral Point/Johnstown which isn't too far from you. I'd like to see a shot of the rear end of your touring sedan to compare to my regular sedan. My D2 project is kind of stalled right now. Too many other things going on in my life to spend much time on it.

I seldom visit this site these days as I'm very busy at work and progress on my D2 has stalled. Now that my son't school has ended for the year we will probably head to the Dodge Garage for some fun. I'll send you a PM on this matter.

I truly used to believe that was true if only subconsciously. However in the last 10 years or so I have come face to face with hard evidence that it simply isn't so. It's hard to accept it but it's undeniable.

I have only one 1936 Dodge, a 4 door non-touring sedan. The story of how I obtained it appears in one of my threads but, basically, it fell into my lap several years ago. I am more of a mid-1960s Mopar guy with a few land barges in my fleet. 65 Polara convertible, 66 Fury convertible, 66 NYer 4DHT, and then a 72 Duster Twister, 70 Imperial LeBaron, and 75 Imperial LeBaron. I've had most of these for decades and it will soon be time to thin the herd. I was sitting on my deck having morning coffee and a neighbor started waving his arms and trying to strike up a conversation with me. As it turns out he wanted the 36 Dodge in his garage to be gone. He had married a woman, moved into her house, and the car belonged to t he woman's ex-husband. It was a long, long, long stalled project. I had never before been involved with such an old car but believed the car was in good enough condition to make it mechanically sound and drive it just for fun. It has been much more of a project than I expected and that project is kind of stalled at the moment but I still intend to get the car driveable and reliable. After that? Not sure because I have a 61 Continental convertible project I'd really like to get started on and I'm not getting any younger.

Robert (Dan), If you're talking about my non-touring sedan project, well, it's still a project and proceeding very slowly. I haven't done squat for almost a year. Life has been tumultuous with the loss of a couple of storage spaces, changing jobs, and the complexities of daily life during Covid. For almost 2 years I've been essentially a mobile mechanic carrying whatever tools I think I'll need in my van. I'm also in the process of buying my own 3-bay repair shop and that is proceeding about as well as everything else in my life. Parts for the D2 are out there but you have to be persistent and follow all the leads you get. Many are dead ends but a couple will pan out. My next step forward will be to install the NOS fuel tank I got last year followed immediately thereafter by the radiator and hoses. I just have so much other stuff going on that I can't find the time to take that on.

Notice the hacksaw blade and small pry bar in my pic. The large container of patience isn't visible. LOL

Do proceed with caution when attempting to crank open that windshield. Getting the windshield to open on my car was an epic multi-day struggle. It was tightly sealed by some sort of thick foam weatherstripping that had hardened to something rock-like and bonded to both the windshield frame and the opening.

Congratulation on acquiring such a neat car. Here's a thread about another recent D2 discovery. I listed production numbers for D2 models in the thread. And here's my own thread on my D2 four door sedan project.

The guy I bought my D2 from somehow learned about a P1 touring sedan sitting in a field in NE PA. He couldn't remember the details but the car had been sitting outside for many years. Anyway he went up there and stripped everything worth saving from that P1. Headlamp buckets and stands, tail lamps, carb, radiator, hood halves, starter, generator, instrument cluster, knobs, handles, etc. The main reason the tail lamps don't fit my D2 is that I have a non-touring sedan and that body style has the tail lamps mounted to the rear fenders. Touring sedans have the tail lamps mounted to the side of the body. Totally different setup. The parts for a Plymouth and a Dodge *of the same body style* may also be differnt but I don't know about that. It won't matter in this case, though, because the parts I have came from a P1. The tail lamps have part numbers molded into the stands where the stands fit against the vehicle body. Here is what I have.

I had a brain fart and said that the spares I have are from a standard sedan. No idea why I said that LOL because they are from a P1 touring sedan. I’ve corrected my earlier post. Beautiful Plymouth you have there. I like the color a lot. I’m surprised by how low on the the body the tail lamps are mounted.

FWIW the windshield in my D2 sedan was cracked when I bought it and the good spare that came with the car came from a P1 touring sedan. At least all the other loose Plymouth parts that came with the car came from that P1. The project had been stalled for so long that the seller couldn’t remember.

Left and right side stands are different. Is this a 4 door touring sedan (with trunk lid) or a 4 door "standard" sedan? Big difference in how the tail lights mount to the body (or fenders). I have a pair of very nice P1 touring sedan tail lights. They came with my 36 D2 and don't fit that car.

Did you find a starter motor? If not I may have one from a P1. I know it CAME off a P1 but don't know if it was original to that car. Might be able to see the part number on it. Let's see...

And the rear:

Here's the front view:

I was out running an errand earlier this afternoon and used a street that I haven't used for years. Suddenly I spotted the unmistakable rear end of a 1936ish DB parked in a driveway. This kind of thing has happened to me in the past and when I went back weeks later to inquire about an old car I 1) couldn't even find teh house again or 2) learned that said car belonged to a visitor who lived some distance away and the homeowner really had no interest in discussing the matter. I didn't want that to happen today so I quickly pulled into a side street and walked back to knock on the house door. (My god does my wife hate it when I do this stuff but she wasn't with me so...) A guy I'd guess was in his late 60s or early 70s answers the door and he was very patient and friendly. Especially when one considers that he wasn't wear a coat and the temp here is in the twenties with wind gusts to 40 mph. IOW it's COLD! Then I saw he was in bare feet! LOL. Well the car is a 1938 touring sedan in nice driver condition. A medium blue color with a very nice interior. He drives it regularly. Has had it about 15 years. He found it in Wisconsin and met the seller halfway with a trailer. That's dedication! A Missouri registration decal in the bottom RH corner of the windshield was dated 1963 so who knows where the car's ownership started. I plan on meeting the guy for some mid-30s DB chat when the weather improves. I'll upload a couple of pics later this evening.

Dodge was never a high end car. When Chrysler acquired Dodge they rolled it into the vehicle line hierarchy. Plymouth for the thrifty, Dodge if wanted a bit more power and styling, then DeSoto for a bit more than Dodge, then the Chrysler line up. At the very top was the Imperial. In 1933 America was in the depths of the Great Depression. Showing off your wealth with an ostentatious luxury car like Imperial/Packard/Duesenberg could result in vandalism of your car or worse. A lot of luxury car owners garaged their cars, keeping them out of sight of the general public. The rarity of options like dual side-mounted spare tires today speaks to the uncommon nature of those options way back when. They cost a lot of money at a time when most of the population didn't have money to spare. This is why a lot of old guys grouch about the fact that so many restored cars today have whitewall tires. They cost extra and most owners didn't want to pay that extra money. Being independent wealthy (LOL) I intend to put wide whitewall tires on my D2 sedan. Call me a rebel.

One of my dream cars! I tried to buy a b5 example from the original owner for about 10 years. I watched it slowly rot under a tree. Also an unmolested440 4-speed car. Heart-breaking to see it rot.

I'd say there's a very good chance that you have a D3 or D4. Measure your car's wheelbase. The wheels on that blue car look like the P1 wheel that came with spare parts that were part of my D2 deal.

Yes, that's the same production number (5996) of trunkless four door sedans that I've seen. The text looks identical to that in numerous publications I've read. Total D2 production: 265005 4 door touring sedans: 174334 2 door touring sedans: 37468 2 door business coupes: 32952 4 door sedans: 5996 2 door rumble seat coupes: 4317 2 door sedans: 2453 4 door, 7 passenger sedans: 1942 2 door convertible coupes: 1525 4 door convertible sedans: 750 Plus 1358 commercial 4 door sedans and 1910 chassis only which were used to make Westchester Suburban station wagons. The same source discusses export models but doesn't give a lot of detail. These models were designated D3 "standard" and D4 "deluxe: and were based on the 1936 Plymouth P1 and P2 models. They were essentially Plymouths fitted with Dodge grilles and trim and also had the smaller Plymouth engine. I wonder if you have a P3 or P4. D3 production is given as "almost 3100" but there's no info on D4 numbers.

Welcome Fernando! I was snoozing and missed the arrival of another D2. Judging by the first picture that you posted your father's D2 is a non-touring sedan body style. That's because they didn't have a trunk and the spare tire was mounted under a metal cover on the back of the car. Production of non-touring sedan models was much, much, much lower than touring sedan models. Something like 175,000 of the 265,000 D2s built were touring sedans vs. about 6000 non-touring sedans. IIRC the "8" at the beginning of your car's serial number means that it was built for export and, therefore, may have a smaller displacement engine with lower compression ratio than D2s built for the USA market. Search under my name to see the thread on my own non-touring sedan's story. It's called something like "My official D2 resurrection thread"

Here's a shot of what I believe to be the original pump from my car. Not getting much done on my D2 these days due to increased work hours and house projects.

Not mine and I have no interest in it. Looks like a beauty. Anyone here? https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/houston-1925-dodge-touring/7153542346.html