Terry Harper Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Great Northern Paper Company cars. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nzcarnerd Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Gawler, South Australia. The building has survived though no longer a garage. From a facebook page of old garages and dealerships in Australia and New Zealand. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Great Northern paper Company bus, Greenville, ME. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Dueseberg J148. This is the second body on the chassis mounted by Graber in 1934. In the late 50s the Kellner body was mounted at the bottom. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I'm sure we have posted this 3 times but it is so awesome it deserves another one. Definitely Pebble Beach BOS material if it existed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 19 hours ago, alsancle said: An Auburn I'm not familiar with. Bob? George? I don’t know. I’m liking the cheesed out chassis. What engine is in it? El Mirage maybe given the background. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 This was already posted but here it is again. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, George K said: I don’t know. I’m liking the cheesed out chassis. What engine is in it? El Mirage maybe given the background. Marmon V16? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 These are photos from motorlife.blog. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 More. The photos are at Muroc clicking off 93 mph. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, George K said: I don’t know. I’m liking the cheesed out chassis. What engine is in it? El Mirage maybe given the background. It's an engine that was readily available but not generally well regarded or thought as a performance powerplant: H-Series Lincoln V-12. Being relatively short-stroke (3.75") in the long-stroke era, they could withstand the higher rpm operation. The 1942 and partial 1946 engines were bored to 2.9375 for 305 ci. which produced 235 ft/lbs torque at 1800 rpm. By the shadow of the carburetors, it appears as if this engine was fitted with an Edmunds dual carburetor intake manifold. There is a section in the back pages of the book The Lincoln Continental by OCee Ritch describing various modifications to wring more performance out of those engines. The most extreme is over-boring the block to 3.0625 and inserting sleeves for any cylinder wall opened into the cooling system or possibly too thin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: It's an engine that was readily available but not generally well regarded or thought as a performance powerplant: H-Series Lincoln V-12. Being relatively short-stroke (3.75") in the long-stroke era, they could withstand the higher rpm operation. The 1942 and partial 1946 engines were bored to 2.9375 for 305 ci. which produced 235 ft/lbs torque at 1800 rpm. By the shadow of the carburetors, it appears as if this engine was fitted with an Edmunds dual carburetor intake manifold. There is a section in the back pages of the book The Lincoln Continental by OCee Ritch describing various modifications to wring more performance out of those engines. The most extreme is over-boring the block to 3.0625 and inserting sleeves for any cylinder wall opened into the cooling system or possibly too thin. I was once told a story about a man who took his V-12 Lincoln to Zumbach’s to try to get some power out of it. After much work and $’s he reported that the only difference was the sound the engine made. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, George K said: I was once told a story about a man who took his V-12 Lincoln to Zumbach’s to try to get some power out of it. After much work and $’s he reported that the only difference was the sound the engine made. George K: I don't doubt that's right, most of the modifications listed in the Ritch text were developed to overcome the engineering shortcomings inherent in the H-Series V-12. Lincoln Continental owners were desperate to get more performance commensurate with the elegant, sporting looks of their rather heavy luxury cars, or at least make them less problematic. I'd opine dry lake racers regarded the H-series V-12 as an inexpensive, possibly better alternative to the ubiquitous Ford flathead: something that would deliver high speed on the cheap. Everyone knew the L-Z V-12 was essentially a Ford flathead with four more cylinders. By the 1940's and later, junkyards were loaded with Lincoln-Zephyrs to source engines and their transmissions. If someone blew up his V-12 motor, there were endless supplies of junkyard replacements. Even Lincoln-Mercury dealers were glad to offload obsolete H-Series parts and used engines when the Lincoln EH and EL V8's became available. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I had one years ago. Drive a HV-12 like you would a Ford V8 from which it was derived: Wind it out, don't expect torque at lugging speeds like other 12s of the 1930s. The Ocee Ritch book had a lot of common-sense mods, mostly invisible, which addressed the engineering shortcomings of that engine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nzcarnerd Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 9 hours ago, alsancle said: Scripps-Booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Spain/Portugal border. Maybe a mid 1920s Willys-Knight centre of photo. Possibly a Model A and a Fiat 509 further back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 22 hours ago, alsancle said: Panhard et Levassor Dynamic. Note the steering wheel in the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/25/2023 at 10:12 PM, George K said: Probably rode just like a 1907 Chadwick. Your more likely to find out about the ride from a Cadillac guy circa 1914 Having been a 1914 Cadillac guy, I can say the ride is somewhat "interesting". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Btw, We need to ask Pete to fix the thread title. Or Walt might be able to edit the first post in the thread and fix the title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 I have no idea why the title changed and no idea how to fix it I am not that computer literate. Will leave that up to the moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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