John C. Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 The attached service manual and technical articles were sent to me by Fred Weisberger of the Hawaii region. He has an operating Sparton Bugle horn and over the years has collected a treasure trove of repair and maintenance information. He quite nicely sent me copies of the documents as I recently acquired two horns with the idea of taking the best components from each to make one that works. He also asked me to scan the materials and post them in the Technical Forum for the benefit of anyone interested in these fascinating vintage horns. Many thanks and a tip of the car-guy hat to Fred! 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C. Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 Here are the two horns to be restored . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John C. Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 Here are the two horns to be restored . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937-44 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 John C. First off let me welcome you to the forum. Secondly Thank You for posting the information on the forum. Your post might receive more views and appreciation on the AACA General forum farther up as these horns were used on all manner of cars and not just Classics. I just want to warn you as a newbie that some of the members that view these forums can be rather heartless and try not to let them discourage you. Carl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Studebaker offered them as an option for 1940 & 1941: https://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?44175-Studebaker-musical-horns-for-real Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37PackardMan Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I certainly appreciate the posting of all this technical information. John C. ....have you become the expert in making these horns functional? If so, are you interested in tackling another project? I have a 3 trumpet Bugle and a 4 trumpet Repealer that I need repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Here's more to add to this information. Howard Dennis Edited November 29, 2019 by hddennis Better Images Found (see edit history) 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans1 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Thank You for sharing so much good information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Anyone know where to purchase a suitable replacement switch for a Sparton Chime horn like the one shown in these instructions? Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrj2 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) John C; What an incredible resource ! Thank-you so much for sharing this. I, for one, am really grateful for this information. Fred has obviously spent a lot of time with these awesome horns. Edited January 30, 2022 by jrj2 Proper credit (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just to update this thread more I finally found a source for the Sparton switch I sought 3 years ago: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133475974611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 Howard Dennis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V16 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 To John and Fred, thank you so much for taking the time to post all this great info. I have been fascinated by and been a collector of these wonderful Sparton horns for 30 years and have many sets, some of them are New Old Stock in the original boxes. Many of them came from the estate of Sam Haight, an early collector of great classics in the LaSalle , Illinois area. I was fortunate enough to purchase his 903 Packard Dual Cowl Phaeton after he had passed away. It was shared with me by his son in law that Sam often told the story of how he came to love the Sparton horns. When he was a youngster his Mother would take the children to play at a local park in their 1929 Packard. The kids would be released to play for hours and trained to listen to the unique song of their mothers Sparton horn when they were to return to the car to go home. Apparently, this was common between other mothers , each having their own Sparton tune so that the kids could tell which Mom was beckoning their return. This had left a sentimental spot in his heart for the Sparton horns and he collected them for many years. This information is much appreciated and will make the task of putting the horns more readilly back in service. I attach a photo of the Packard that I now own and drive often that Sam used to own, Allen Strong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartsAncient Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I have a quite a few of these three and four trumpet musical horns. I also have some NOS copper diaphragms, sorry no extras at this time for sale. I may attempt to reproduce some new ones soon. Look at all those rhythms that were available on their four trumpet horns! Since I own a number of them I am excited to find out which tunes they have. I think I am correct in assuming that a different cam shaft would be required for each tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31plymouth Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 I have a Sparton 4 trumpet Model 197. Was this supposed to play a song ? I get a few toot's . 1 trumpet may not be working. Any thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Just had an odd experience with my horn and thought I'd ask here if anybody knows about these horns. For years I've had this horn that appeared to need work that I wasn't able to properly do to correct it's operation. After trying multiple times and methods to connect this new button I still could only get the horn to cycle once with three notes. Yesterday while going over everything online I noticed that my horn was labeled Sparton Bugle and not Sparton Chime Bugle even though it has three trumpets and three terminals. I was able to find one 1929 add listing the Sparton Bugle but no other adds or references were found. Do I have a one year horn that later evolved into the Chime Bugle that looks identical but has the ability to sound two different sounds from the same horn? Does anyone need this two button horn button for their Sparton Chime Bugle? Howard Dennis Edited July 20, 2022 by hddennis (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37PackardMan Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I have a 4 trumpet unit that plays "how dry I am". My three trumpet plays "I'm Wild About horns". If you go to YouTube you can hear the tunes. The reason for the two buttons is to play either the tune or simultaneous notes. I once had a '67 Lincoln that had three horns that played simultaneously. Sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31plymouth Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I got my Sparton Model 197 working using some of the information provided by John C. Don't recognize the tune. Does anyone know what the Model 197 is supposed to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac-slator Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 2/1/2022 at 1:01 PM, PartsAncient said: I have a quite a few of these three and four trumpet musical horns. I also have some NOS copper diaphragms, sorry no extras at this time for sale. I may attempt to reproduce some new ones soon. Look at all those rhythms that were available on their four trumpet horns! Since I own a number of them I am excited to find out which tunes they have. I think I am correct in assuming that a different cam shaft would be required for each tune. On 7/19/2022 at 12:19 PM, hddennis said: Just had an odd experience with my horn and thought I'd ask here if anybody knows about these horns. For years I've had this horn that appeared to need work that I wasn't able to properly do to correct it's operation. After trying multiple times and methods to connect this new button I still could only get the horn to cycle once with three notes. Yesterday while going over everything online I noticed that my horn was labeled Sparton Bugle and not Sparton Chime Bugle even though it has three trumpets and three terminals. I was able to find one 1929 add listing the Sparton Bugle but no other adds or references were found. Do I have a one year horn that later evolved into the Chime Bugle that looks identical but has the ability to sound two different sounds from the same horn? Does anyone need this two button horn button for their Sparton Chime Bugle? Howard Dennis @hhd On 1/30/2022 at 5:22 PM, hddennis said: Just to update this thread more I finally found a source for the Sparton switch I sought 3 years ago: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133475974611?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 Howard Dennis @hddennis What is the part number on the switch button? the ebay link is not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, ac-slator said: @hhd @hddennis What is the part number on the switch button? the ebay link is not working. Thank Goodness eBay keeps records as this purchase was made back in 2021! I was able to find out seller still has some for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/144735713351?itmmeta=01HSV023EVKZ1PQXQEQMW0DA90&hash=item21b2ebb847:g:Rk4AAOSwJ7hfHud4 Howard Dennis Edited March 25 by hddennis (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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