nzcarnerd Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Posted on a NZ facebook page. Photos taken in Bluff at the bottom of the South Island of New Zealand, one of the most southerly towns in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I originally thought GM but the grille resembles nothing GM I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Sure looks like GM to me. Any chance of a Fisher body tag on the firewall? Or maybe something that could identify it as a Holden body? Look at those little dents on the cowl where the hooks were to hold the wired cowl lacing. Also the unused wiper feed-throughs under the windshield match my 1936 Pontiac, as does the cowl vent, and maybe even the windshield. Doors are hinged in front. Everything about this screams 1936 Fisher to me. I think the grille is from something else. Edited May 19, 2019 by Bloo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Does have a resemblance to a Vauxhall with 37 Holden body. Especially in the windshield area. Somewhat in the grille as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Maybe 36 Graham. This is in Australia as well and has the one piece hood grille combo. Maybe a holden body as well being from down under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bloo said: Sure looks like GM to me. Any chance of a Fisher body tag on the firewall? Or maybe something that could identify it as a Holden body? Look at those little dents on the cowl where the hooks were to hold the wired cowl lacing. Also the unused wiper feed-throughs under the windshield match my 1936 Pontiac, as does the cowl vent, and maybe even the windshield. Doors are hinged in front. Everything about this screams 1936 Fisher to me. I think the grille is from something else. No other info than what you see unfortunately. 1936 Fisher was my first thought too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 The 1936 Holden sedan bodies all had suicide front doors. I did consider the bigger Vauxhalls and other English cars but nothing seemed to match. I guess a search of under the hood photos some of the models suggested might find the patterns of the swage lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1936 Studebaker Dictator.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 That grille shell or grille and hood combo looks too deep, that why I was leaning on a one piece hood and grille combo but couldn't come up with a match. Could it just be perspective that makes the proportions appear different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, keiser31 said: 1936 Studebaker Dictator.... Interesting possibility but it doesn't match this one. http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=380778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Note also the different shape firewall on the '36 for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The Vauxhall Cowl bead line and door swing looks correct. The grille doesn't quite though, unless there were other variations. Could the grille be from a different car and they just cleaned up the yard where they pulled it out of. The color variants are similar but not exact. I see a bunch of gray the car doesn't show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Hinge location looks right for the Stude though. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1936 Pontiac fast back style (or a close GM cousin. Buick would be model 47). Vent cowl looks GM style Look at the pressing in the firewall on this--> https://www.grautogallery.com/vehicles/2118/1936-Pontiac-Silverstreak Not many 1930's GM Holden bodies in NZ. GM New Zealand assembled in Petone, Wellington using imported Fisher bodies For that shell "free" may be on the high side price! Edited May 20, 2019 by 1939_Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, 1939_Buick said: 1936 Pontiac fast back style (or a close GM cousin. Buick would be model 47). Vent cowl looks GM style Look at the pressing in the firewall on this--> https://www.grautogallery.com/vehicles/2118/1936-Pontiac-Silverstreak I thought so too. If it weren't pouring rain I would go outside and take a picture. 10 minutes ago, 1939_Buick said: Not many 1930's GM Holden bodies in NZ. GM New Zealand assembled in Petone, Wellington using imported Fisher bodies Well. that explains it. I would have expected if they were sending things all the way from North America, New Zealand would have got the same stuff Australia did. I guess not. 3 hours ago, keiser31 said: 1936 Studebaker Dictator.... The grille sure looks like it. It's probably from a different car. Were there any Fisher bodied Studebakers? Just for fun, have a look at this thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Australia made bodies from scratch, due the import taxes of the time. GM Holden made bodies for a lot of brands (not just GM). Are different in detail from USA Fisher TJ Richards (Chrysler) was another major local Au body builder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The windshield wiper mounted above the windshield should narrow it down some. Seems to me most were mounted below by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I think someone added that. Note the two old wiper protrusions below the windshield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 I am leaning towards this being a 1936 Oldsmobile. My research has shown that even though the GM bodies from this era are very similar there are differences. This engine shot of a '35 Olds shows the same swage lines on the firewall as the mystery car. The mystery car has conventional front doors so is '36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I almost agree with NZ but this 36 Olds firewall has a slight indent for the back of the engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I think both the red Olds and the car in question have a firewall dent, it just isnt showing up well. How about a 1936 LaSalle? http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=80268 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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