James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Hi all im a member of the Australian Buick club and im trying to identify this car i just bought it seems to be a strange car this one. Only 5 chasis numbers D on the engine block with only 5 numbers. It has no scoloping on the guards. But is a 6 cylinder with what seems to be a 1923 delco starter. And 21 inch wheel base. Any advise or knowledge of what this is would be awsome thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) I think the D is actually CPX (with a light strike on the X), which is what McLaughin stamped on their export engines (see attached pictures). I think the frame and engine serial number would put it in the range for 1923 McLaughlin but the wheelbase should be 118 or 124 inches for I6 cars. The model would be 45 Special (118" w.b.) or 49 Special or 55 Special (124" w.b.) You can try Vintage Vehicle Services to see if they can get more information: https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/options.html Edited June 10, 2017 by sean1997 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Also, check the firewall for a tag that looks like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Thanks heaps sean i had a feeking it might be Mclauglan. And i wish I had the fire wall tag seems to be the only one missing. Ill double check the wheels and ill let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Ours dose not have the x so could this be a later imported car that was not actually made 4 export Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Could be, but it would probably have been converted to right hand drive if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Tru i cant see that it has been changed on the dash or the floor. But i did have to turn the gears on the steering box lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 The car was a garage find of 35 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Is it CXD or could it be CKD for complete knock down, which is how I understand they were shipped. I will have to go to my computer to take a look at the McLaughlin numbers I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) The terms CKD and CPX are not related. CP is for Canadian Products Limited Division (the Walkerville, Ontario engine, transmission and rear axle plant) and X is for export (usually right hand drive cars). CKD describes how the cars were shipped. Edited June 10, 2017 by sean1997 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Ill go out to the shed and take a closer picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 The second picture is of the top of the flywheel just discovered that the first numbers are scrubed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 In the one photo of the ignition side of the engine, one can see the two-piece pushrods. This was a new feature for the 1923 models. The drum style headlights point to a 1923 model. The only thing that I am not seeing in the front view photo is the moulding around the radiator shell opening. Everything else points to it being a 1923 model. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) I cant seem to access to post any more comments on here im just getting a little lost navigating this site im sorry ill keep trying to find my way around. My emai is. 1921Buick@Gmail.com Edited June 10, 2017 by James veld Getting lost in navigating this site its very difficult for me (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unimogjohn Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 James, pics of my 1923 McLaughlin Buick, model 45 special. I think, as other do, that it is the same year and model. Does yours have a wooden dash? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 The block has casting number 158972 which makes it a 1923 6 cylinder. Hugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 It may be an Australian built body, by Holden or someone else. The oval tag is typical of Holden. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden Quote By 1923, HMBB were producing 12,000 units per year.[11] During this time, HMBB was the first company to assemble bodies for Ford Motor Company of Australia until its Geelong plant was completed.[14] From 1924, HMBB became the exclusive supplier of car bodies for GM in Australia, with manufacturing taking place at the new Woosville plant.[15] These bodies were made to suit a number of chassis imported from manufacturers such as Chevrolet and Dodge.[11] In 1926 General Motors (Australia) was established with assembly plants at Newstead, Queensland; Marrickville, New South Wales; City Road, Melbourne; Birkenhead, South Australia; and Cottesloe, Western Australia[16] utilising bodies produced by Holden Motor Body Builders and imported complete knock down (CKD) chassis.[17] In 1930 alone, the still independent Woodville plant built bodies for Austin, Chrysler, DeSoto, Morris, Hillman, Humber, Hupmobile and Willys-Overland as well GM cars. The last of this line of business was the assembly of Hillman Minx sedans in 1948.[18] The Great Depression led to a substantial downturn in production by Holden, from 34,000 units annually in 1930 to just 1,651 units one year later.[11] In 1931 General Motors purchased Holden Motor Body Builders and merged it with General Motors (Australia) Pty Ltd to form General Motors-Holden's Ltd (GM-H).[12] Throughout the 1920s Holden also supplied tramcars to Melbourne & Metropolitan Tramways Board. Several have been preserved in both Australia and New Zealand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26-25Buick Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 The Holden coach badge on our car. Engine numbers on the Australian cars by 1926 were certainly within the published ranges you can find on the Net and in books and aligned with the American ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 The photo of the front of the car shows what looks like 1926-1927 tilt ray headlights. Screw on the bottom of Bezel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbuick22 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 John, Does your car have the 22gal fuel tank like the one on this car, It is the same as the US model 55 except the filler is on the other side. Your car also has the US model 55 steering wheel. Does anyone have a wheel like that for sale????? It's the only thing I am missing on my 22-55. John 22-6-55 Sport touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Thanks for the explanation Sean. I'd never previously heard of that division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Later data plates actually list Walkerville on them and by that time Walkerville built engines have a W preceding the engine number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Another QLD car http://forums.aaca.org/topic/293554-1924-buick-id/ From the same seller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Im not sure of the fule tank size. But it does have a stewart vacume pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbuick22 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 As I look at the pic. again , it may be a 16 gal but with a special filler neck that Us car do not have. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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