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Ethanol free gas --- finally local


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I finally found some ethanol free gas at a local Sunoco station (thought it was good news).  However it is priced at $7.99/gallon!  Small sticker said 100 octane racing fuel.

I will never use it in my Buicks, but might try to mix with oil for my 2-cycle equipment instead of the $6/quart fuel.

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It seems that as WalMart updates their gas stations, they are adding Ethanol-free gas, at about a 45cents/gallon premium over normal E10 87 posted octane.  They've already done one station near me and are in the process of doing another one.  The newer QT stations have added E85 gasoline for about 35 cents/gallon savings over E10.  That lower price resulted in many non-FlexFuel newer cars being mis-fueled and getting an escorted trip to the dealership for "R&R fuel".

 

There's one private brand of fuel in the eastern mid-west that has ethanol-free gas . . . in a few states! 

 

I'm NOT sure how these mass market stations are getting approval to sell ethanol-free gas as several years ago, when some individual stations were selling it, the EPA came though and requested they not do that (by observation).  The DFW area and counties along the I35 corridor to San Antonio and then south to the Gulf Coast are all listed as "non-attainment" areas, plus a good bit of east of the I35 corridor in TX.  Whatever changes that were made were done under the prior President.

 

In northern locales where Sunoco is a "normal" fuel brand, many stations sold racing gas out of the pump.  In the later 1980s, there were a few private-owned stations that sold 100 RON fuel from a pump.  Many of the Buick Turbo owners bought fuel there, as long as they were open.  Others probably bought similar fuels at the drag strip from the local racing fuel vendor (in or from barrels).

 

Issues with avgas and "barrel" racing fuel are that, in TX, those fuels typically don't have the "road tax" collected at point of sale.  At the Cresson Motorsports Ranch, there's a nearby pump with 100 octane in it (not sure about ethanol content).

 

NTX5467

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That's really weird. The stations around here that sell ethanol free gas sell it at the same prices as the ethanol gas being sold across the street.  You don't really know until you see it on the pump that it's pure gas.  

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1 hour ago, RivNut said:

That's really weird. The stations around here that sell ethanol free gas sell it at the same prices as the ethanol gas being sold across the street.  You don't really know until you see it on the pump that it's pure gas.  

 

 I think you will find that Kansas like Ohio does not require stations to label the pumps that have ethanol. Consequently just because the pump doesn't say 10% ethanol doesn't mean you aren't getting ethanol. The only station around me that proclaims ethanol free gas sells it at about an 80 cent premium.

 

Carl

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Labels regarding ethanol content are regulated by the particular state.  IF "ethanol free" is such a marketing issue, why doesn't the particular retailer have some sort of signage on the respective pumps?  Not unlike some gas brands proclaiming their own additive blends?

 

NTX5467

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 That was my point. In Ohio some stations sell gas with ethanol but don't mark there pumps and some people assume because it doesn't say "contains 10% ethanol" it doesn't have ethanol and continue buying gas from them instead of the station that marks their pumps. Just another way to legally be somewhat fraudulent by omission.

 If a station sells gas here that does not have ethanol they advertise it as such and charge extra.

 

Carl

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1 hour ago, RivNut said:

That's really weird. The stations around here that sell ethanol free gas sell it at the same prices as the ethanol gas being sold across the street.  You don't really know until you see it on the pump that it's pure gas.  

 

In Wichita, ethanol free is about 50¢ more (currently $2.70/gal). 

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Washington is pretty eco friendly. There's only two stations I know of around here - one is the 104 octane race fuel and the other is an old Cenex gas station out in Black Diamond, an old coal mining city in the middle of nowhere. One is within 10 minutes of me and the other is quite a jog... the good one is the jog. I've found that my engine runs best on 89 E10, rather than 91 E10. Maybe with the current administration, real fuels might make a come back? Who knows.

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The good news is non ethanol is recognized as being marketable.  In the area where I live a major convenience store chain has Non Ethanol 91 octane at all 300+ shops they run. And some franchises of the Sunoco dealers have it too. So it's available virtually everywhere, and it is also roughly 50 cents more per gallon. 

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