Guest towd Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) I've pulled the head off the engine and found 5 out of the 6 cylinders with stuck valves. Everything is free now and I'm wondering if my oil pump is working. When cranking the motor with the head off - I'm not seeing any oil in the lifter area ??? Is this normal or does the engine need to be running for the oil to get to lifters etc? Edited October 5, 2014 by towd Add picture (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 If you turn it with the starter it will pump to the head, not by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest towd Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I have been cranking it with starter motor. I don't see any oil showing up anywhere? Not even in filter canister. The car has been sitting for a real long time - could the pump have lost its prime? It is about a quart low on oil but there should be enough to get it moving??? Any help is appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 You might try to prime the pump with grease. Also look for an oil pressure relief valve on the side of the block. If it has one, it may be plugged up. Remove it and clean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 What is the oil like? Is the sump full of sludge and blocking the oil pump intake? It might be a good idea to drop the sump and clean it out, as well as clean the pump intake screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Do yourself a favor and pull the pan. Make sure! There could be a mouse nest or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest towd Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Do yourself a favor and pull the pan. Make sure! There could be a mouse nest or worse.Exactly what I expected/didn't want to hear. Check out this filter - anybody remember these????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 NOS Allstate Assembly for sale by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest towd Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Any idea of the age/era of that filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 NOS Allstate Assembly for sale by me.PM Sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest towd Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 PM SentNot sure if I received PM - ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest towd Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I have been cranking it with starter motor. I don't see any oil showing up anywhere? Not even in filter canister. The car has been sitting for a real long time - could the pump have lost its prime? It is about a quart low on oil but there should be enough to get it moving??? Any help is appreciatedUpdate - I removed the oil pump, packed it with grease, and it now is showing 20 psi on the oil pressure gauge when cranking. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Any idea of the age/era of that filter?Probably 50s. Allstate, so Sears. The filter has been sealed up in the canister since new. However I would think that you could get a cartridge easy enough for it.This one is NOS so never been installed.I want $35 for the kit with housing plus freight.Towd gets first grabs as its his thread, 30 gets second.Let me know soon if you want it.email is best capyjack@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 You might try to prime the pump with grease. Also look for an oil pressure relief valve on the side of the block. If it has one, it may be plugged up. Remove it and clean it.If the '33 Dodge L-6 is like the '33 Plymouth L-6, then the location of the oil pressure relief valve depends on when it was built. For Plymouth, it started out being mounted on the oil pump, then migrated to inside the oil pan and then finally moved to the permanent location on the side of the block. To add to the confusion there was a factory retrofit kit for the engines with the relief in the oil pan to move it to the oil pump but it is a different part than the earlier engines had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest towd Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Probably 50s. Allstate, so Sears. The filter has been sealed up in the canister since new. However I would think that you could get a cartridge easy enough for it.This one is NOS so never been installed.I want $35 for the kit with housing plus freight.Towd gets first grabs as its his thread, 30 gets second.Let me know soon if you want it.email is best capyjack@comcast.netThanks Jack - but I wil pass - I've got bigger fish to fry with this I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 OK, I don't think you will have any problems finding a cartridge for your filter canister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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