avantey Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Again I need help from the vast knowledge base stored here! Where can I get the weight of a 1912 Overland model 59T touring car? It is not on the title or reg I have. My Tom Lester book only goes back to 1915 and I have no other early resources on the shelf.Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dei Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hi Bill (and fellow Overland owner),Can't help on the weight number but have you tried the Willys Overland Knight Registry forum? (WOKR) You might have some luck there.Any pictures? We all like pictures, restored or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Back in this state to register a car you need the weight. To get the weight we would take the car someplace where there is a scale. A buddies scrap yard, Or a local feed store with a truck scale. Any place with a scale will work. Get a weight and a sales ticket/sales stub of the weight and you are good to go. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capngrog Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 You can always make up a weight for your vehicle, but I think that what Dandy Dave recommended would be best. To add to his suggestion, you might consider calling a moving company that does business locally, they usually use local scales to weigh their loads.Grog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 We borrowed a portable scale used by a local amateur race car builder. 4 pads you place under the tires and connect to a central processor. Interesting also to see the weight distribution front to back and side to side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 If you are registering it in NY you need an official weight slip. I tried to use printed data from a book even bringing in the book to register a 38 cadillac and they wouldn't accept it. They want a printed slip of the actual weight of your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Yup, Official Weight Slip. That is the term I was trying to think of in post #3. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 If an official weight slip is required it does not matter what this group thinks the weight is. Load it up and take it to a local business that weighs large loads and get the slip. They likely won't charge you more than $25 dollars.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Thanks for all the replies. And you are probably right about NYS and it being an official weight slip. Guess I'll have to sneak a ride out to the local Petro by I90! Is their weight slip accepted as official? I have another truckstop nearby with a CAT scale that encourages the drivers to be safe and weigh in for the road side stops so I assume the NYS troopers take their slip.Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Oh I forgot the pic for whoever asked. This was Saturday in the local Memorial Day parade with Pres T. Roosevelt and SS man on board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magoo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It won't print out an official weight slip, but you can accurately weigh an automobile using a pair of bathroom scales, a few stiff planks, and junior high math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hi Bill,Nice photo of the Overland and the President........Congrats on supporting another local function....wish we were going to Maine with you the week after next,enjoy the Chrome Glidden Tour for us !!We are in Buffalo/Amherst for the AACA Meet this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It won't print out an official weight slip, but you can accurately weigh an automobile using a pair of bathroom scales, a few stiff planks, and junior high math.Wow, do you have bathroom scales that go to 750 pounds plus for even a 3000 pound car ?Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 You can measure the square inch footprint of each tire on the pavement, multiply by the p.s.i. in each tire and total the results to get the weight of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) So if you have flat tires the car will weigh less right ? ( lol )Wayne Edited May 29, 2014 by AlCapone (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Would it help to take the cover off the car? Kinda like standing "nekked" on the scale to improve the accuracy of your results? And Wayne, does a flat has a bigger footprint to offset the lower PSI ?!?! LOL too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 The concept is a bit difficult to grasp but it works. You can't argue with the laws of physics. Works the other way as well. Take a tire with 30 p.s.i. in it and put 800lbs on it and the foot print will be about 26 sq in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 I do not doubt the physics of comression and deformation by the tire. However, does the construction of the tire have an effect on this? I am thinking of a tubed or bias ply tire vs. say a load range E truck tire where the sidewall has two or three ply to stiffen it? Seems the rate of deformation would change and the resultant size of the footprint.Besides this convsersation was getting fun and now has turned semi-serious....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Learn something new everyday!Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 This also explains why no matter how much weight you put on a vehicle the pressure in the tires doesn't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It certainly can reduce the pressure inside the tire if it blows the side out of the tire !Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Oh I forgot the pic for whoever asked. This was Saturday in the local Memorial Day parade with Pres T. Roosevelt and SS man on board!Nice! :cool: Looks like something I would do. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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