trafalger Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Since I'm new around here I thought I would post to let everyone know what I'm working and if see if anyone had any tips or words of encouragement...or to tell me I got screwed...haha2 weeks ago I was out driving around and saw this sad looking buick electra parked in someone's yard. It wasn't for sale but it had "assumed the position" so that it might have been for sale or might not have. After about a week I decided to stop and knock on the door. The guy was very nice but the car wasn't currently for sale. He asked me for my name and number and he would think about it and call me back. He calls me back about a week later and says that he's ready to deal.Here she was as I found her in the guy's yard....she's very sad looking.So $1200 dollars later and 75$ for a tow she arrived at my house. Even tho it was 9:45pm on Saturday I wanted to see what she looked like under all that crud. So I busted out the garden hose and some sponges and started scrubbing all of that stuff off. Almost 2 hours later this is what she looked like.The next day I was up early working on the interior, until my dad could swing by and help me with the engine. We were able to determine that the fuel pump had gone bad and we were able to find a replacement locally. So we got her started and could "yard drive"The Good:It starts and you can yard drive it.The Bad:The engine sounds great, except for this annoying little tick. It's not a knock but a tick. We changed the oil because it was as thin as water, but my dad says it sounds like a lifter might be stuck in the rear right cylinder. The car doesn't have a single issue starting or idling, but you always hear this tick. I have new Valve cover gaskets ordered so we can take the valves off to see if anything is stuck in there. The guy said the car had been sitting only 9 months BUT the oil filter I took off was discontinued 7 years ago so i tend to believe it was sitting longer than that.The expected:Someone messed with the radio at some point and now it's not working.the courtesy light on the dash and glovebox does not work. The wires are not hot so I think they messed them up trying to fiddle with the radio.Tires need replaced from sittingneeds a new mufflerfront seat needs to have new upholsteryAll in all i'm happy with it for $1200 bucks and I plan to take as long as needed to fix it up. It was not bought to be a showcar, i want to drive it!Does anyone know of any Buick guys around Charlotte NC? I would LOVE for someone to swing by one day to give me some pointers on what i can do to get her fixed up. Especially if I can find out what that tick is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Nice car, great price!!!Somebody from NC will chime in soon enough.Welcome aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Hello Joseph. Great car. I got your email too and sent you a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I always thought the 64's were really elegant Electra's - another year that in my opionion they out Cadillac'd Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Argh, I can't figure out this tick...it drives me batty...lol:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nice car. Good luck with it. But the wheel covers!! We would welcome you to join the Buick Club of America. And you just missed our yearly bash, in Concord this time Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nice car. Good luck with it. But the wheel covers!! We would welcome you to join the Buick Club of America. And you just missed our yearly bash, in Concord this time BenAre the Wheel covers bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 These were hanging in the window when i got home...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Are the Wheel covers bad? Ah, not really. That is something a lot of us changed back in the distant pass to be an individual. And most ended up with the SAME change. But those [mid '90s??] just don't look right to me. But, hey, if they float your boat, so be it. Still one of my favorite body styles. I had a '66 Electra 225 4 door Hardtop. Probably my favorite all time car. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 I actually don't like them but I thought they were stock. I'll take them off tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmsue Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Congrats on the fine car.I have a 65 Electra Conv that I've been working on for many years and finally got running this summer.You mentioned that you have a valve cover gasket set, you'll also need a pushrod cover gasket to get access to the lifters. Lifters and pushrods are available from AutoZone special order. Price is good on them too.Great car.Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Great car! Please keep us updated.Here's a '64 that is wearing the original, correct-style wheelcovers. Click to see a larger image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Great thanks!I'll see if i can find those online somewhere.Great car! Please keep us updated.Here's a '64 that is wearing the original, correct-style wheelcovers. Click to see a larger image.[ATTACH=CONFIG]149766[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Put a request in the Buy / Sell section. Often times, you will get a better deal through the forum. eBay will have em occasionally too. Unless they are pristine, try to get em for $20 each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Look what I found in the trunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Great!! Those will look better, IMO. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Looks like a Road Wheel in the bottom of the pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick840 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Great car you've found there..........I'm sure you will enjoy it.If the car has been unused for a long time the sound you are describing seems to me to a lifter problem.Others here may be better qualified to offer suggestions to remedy the problem but before opening up the engine try some simple things first.You say that you've put fresh oil in the car which is a start............ using a fresh lot of modern oil may help free up that noisy lifter (if that's what it is) Take it for a lengthy drive if you are able to and see if using the car helps getting fresh clean oil into those lifters......if it still has that tick you could try changing the oil a couple of times after running it to clean out that old oil ..............might do the trick.Of course if the noise is more of a knock than a tick then you would be best to have a good mechanic check it for you to try to diagnose if it is something more serious. If it's not a high mile engine those nailheads are super reliable and I'm hoping it's just the lifters.Those original caps that you found in the trunk are some of the nicest styled caps that Buick used in the 60's (IMO) and boy are they well made and solid. The other option is to find a set of Chrome Road wheels/ Rally wheels. looks like you have at least one in the trunk. they were an option in 64 and really transform the car.............they look very cool..........look at the photo below :cool::cool:As said before if you want to look for caps or the Chrome Road Wheels then try posting a wanted advert on this forum. Great bunch of people here with the same keen interest in Buicks that you are showing. Edited August 15, 2012 by buick840 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Just wanted to update here as well....the tick is gone!!Before MM Oil:http://youtu.be/xDQQ7e5NBfQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 After MM Oil:http://youtu.be/-spqQ2aJ45U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 The wheel in the trunk is a rim that the Previous Owner said he wanted to put on the car but couldn't find the other 3. I don't really know the history of it or what it is.I only have 2 wheel covers and they're pitted really bad in between the blades, so if I can find 4 better looking ones that would be swell. Until then i'll be rolling with those solid covers :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 So here is a good one for you all..to the Mystery Machine!My Dad and I were discussing last nite over what kinda car the Electra really is.Here is our issue.The car is a 4 door hard top electra 225 w/ a Wildcat engine (offically). BUT I've seen it mentioned on these forums that only the convertible came with Fender skirts. And on the wiki it says that the convertible only came with power windows. Both of which I have. The wiki also says that the convertible had leather seats and I have cloth.My dad says I have what's called a hardtop-convertible, where the chassis could have been a convertible but they put a hardtop on it at the factory, mostly because I have zero-post. I don't think someone attached a top to a convertible after the factory because i have dash controls for the "vanity lights" in the rear of the car. Since I'm new and have never actually seen another Electra in person I'm not really sure what I have, all the info I can find seems to contradict one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Joseph, in the early '50s, the 2 door version [no center post] was referred to as a" Hard top convertible". By '64 most of us referred to yours simply as 4 door hardtop, as opposed to a 4 door sedan. As to the fender skirt question, I can't say. But the "convertible came only with power windows" is probably correct. But not "only the convertible" came with power windows. You have another post asking about A/C. If you are not set on a correct as from the factory car, there are several aftermarket A/Cs available. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Thanks for the info!Are the AC units your referring too the under the dash ones? Have you ever seen one of those or tried to install one? If it's a huge expensive and effort I'm not going to worry about it, I was just curious what was out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I have installed several. The hardest part is the compressor bracket (on an earlier model), but the AC brackets are more readily available for the 401's. IF you plan on showing the car (BCA 400 point), I would go for the factory AC, which seems possible, but difficult. There are a lot of under hood pieces as well as the dash (which is different). My last under dash unit came from Old Air Products and cost under a grand if I recall. While I HAVE installed them before (so factor in my experience), it took me less than two full days including charging. I liked the look of the Old Air unit better, personally, but I have installed Classic Air, and the Vintage Air unit looks nice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chevy_dude97 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Nice ride, looks alot better after the detail job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Got some new tires on her today and away we went! To the local ice cream place to get milkshakes.I got a few honks and thumbs up from random people while driving...that was pretty surreal and neat.(BTW I love that the dash lights up red to match the interior when the headlights are on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenugent Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 on ebay there is a set of hubcaps that look like yours-outer slots with a turbine look silver trishield-that would make them 63s i think.there under ebay 63-65 riviera parts.3 hours ago there were no bids starting at 50.00 4 days 23 hours left.hope you can find listing -seller is jsed4964(4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobravii Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hey! I am restoring a 1964 as well! I sure wish mine was in as good of shape as your is! Yours sure cleaned up nice.as for your question about the skirts.... I think all of the Electra came with skirts. The LeSabres and Wildcats didn't.Mine is a convertible. The only factory option is doesn't have is an Am/FM radio but it did come with a wonderbar radio with a foot button. I know I am going to wish it wasn't fully optioned whn it comes time to re do all the wiring! Congrat's on the Electra :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hey! I am restoring a 1964 as well! I sure wish mine was in as good of shape as your is! Yours sure cleaned up nice.as for your question about the skirts.... I think all of the Electra came with skirts. The LeSabres and Wildcats didn't.Mine is a convertible. The only factory option is doesn't have is an Am/FM radio but it did come with a wonderbar radio with a foot button. I know I am going to wish it wasn't fully optioned whn it comes time to re do all the wiring! Congrat's on the Electra :-)Thanks, and honestly I don't know about the skirts. I have only had the car for about 5 days and the only thing i've done so far is put on a new fuel pump and get it some new tires. The skirts were on it when I got it. But I've heard from a few people and from surfing the net that some of the things on my car did or did not come with electras or different models of electras. I'm honestly not sure what the PO did or did not do.I know that mine has the AM only radio, no AC but does have power windows and seats (still work great), but it also has the skirts as well. Plus it has bench seats, not bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 All 1964 Electra 225 series cars were equipped with the fender skirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 We now have a fully working dash, radio works and all the courtesy features work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Getting better by the hour!! Ben Edited August 22, 2012 by First Born (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 Getting better mi the hour!! BenThanks!, luckily no one was around with a camera when I was upside down under that dash. I was in positions I've not been in since college! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 Anyone know if you can use one of those generic power antenna kits that you get at NAPA or Autozone to replace a broken power antenna. The motor and switch on the old one work fine it's just the antenna is broken off. I know that once that happens you pretty much have to replace the whole unit. The guys at the local autoparts stores have absolutely no clue what will work on this car or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Look what I found in the trunk [ATTACH=CONFIG]149861[/ATTACH]Great that these were in the trunk!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 If she will mount up or a mount can be made to secure the new motor/antenna there is no reason it would not work. 12 volts is 12 volts. Fashion a bracket to secure. Connect the wires correctly and it should work fine.Cool car. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Brakes adjusted and parts are purchased for a new exhaust..Just need to mount them up then we're back on the road full tilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Does anyone know how to remove the power antenna, i have tried everything and my service book doesn't say anything about it. The motor is good i just need to replace the mast. Edited August 18, 2012 by trafalger (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafalger Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 The new exhaust is on and she's on the road! Now i just need to figure out how to get this stupid antenna off.haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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