wildcat70 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Greetings All, I found another car in a barn and am hoping someone can give me some info on the car. It is a 90L 1941 Buick Limo. I understand there were 605 of these made? How many are left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvelde Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Marty, here is a link that says there were 669 of these. Classic Car Specifications, Engine, Wheelbase, production numbers, VIN numbers for Antique Cars, Classic Cars, Vintage Cars and Muscle CarsHope that helps,John V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Marty,Model 90, Limited 8-Passenger Sedan, $2360, 906 producedModel 90L, Limited Limousine, $2465, 669 producedModel 91, Limited 6-Passenger Sedan, $2155, 1231 producedModel 91F, Limited 6-Passenger Formal Sedan, $2310, 296 producedThe Model 90L was the most expensive regular production 1941 Buick.Grandpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 John, I have seen the 669 figure, a 636 figure, and most prominently a 605 figure. Any idea as to how many are registered still known to exist? I know many pre-war cars found themselves in the "melting pot" of recycled metal for the post-war cars.I was told these can be valued up to 60K, Is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Marty,The 2011 BCA Membership Roster lists six 1941 Buick 90L Limiteds.Grandpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Grandpa, I'm guessing it would be safe to say this one is worth driving home. Can you give me an idea of value range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 MartyRM Auctions shows three '41 Limiteds (various models) sold in the last ten or so years:RM AUCTIONS | Collector Car Auctions Company | Offering the World's Finest Motor CarsGrandpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Got the data plate info....1941 MODStype 41-4933Body # 10Trim # 912Paint # 560Not sure why it has a zero in the MOD line.Does body number 10 mean it was the tenth car built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If you get the chassis number & engine number Dave Corbin will likely give you some interesting information on when made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If you get the chassis number & engine number Dave Corbin will likely give you some interesting information on when madeAgreed. The famous 41 Limiteds. I see you are a BCA member. Grab the Bugle from 1-2 issues back where Pete Phillips covered the 41's. There are a few more out there then are listed in the BCA roster. Luckily, these survived WW II scrap drives. The numbers produced are not that important if you like the car. A few of these reside in museums and private collections. About 1 per year shows up at the BCA Nationals. Most are either #5 full on restoration projects or nice originals/older restorations. Let's see some photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I love the car, but want to ensure it is a rare one that will fit in my collection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Here is a pic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 What do you guys think? is she a keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Without a doubt and it should more than meet your rarity criteria. Your thread should get more interest now with the addition of the photos.Beautiful car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Anyone know why the model is listed as "0" on the data plate? Was this some special significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbuick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Marty,You must be looking in very nice barns. I have the same car in similar or better condition. In the last couple of years I have seen some for sale in very nice original condition with some work to chrome/paint and mechanical's go for 27k - 35k. This is if every thing is turn key and good working order. A very nice/ or completely restored car could be 50k-65k but it wold take more than that to bring a "barn find" to that condition. I am amazed how nice the one you found looks. The value does not follow the rarity, as the car is worth about the same as a nice coupe. But they are nice driving cars and run well at freeway speeds. If it has the divider window the front seat is a bit tight to the steering wheel. If you look back 1-2 months there was one listed on this site, it was sold after 1-2 months. I think the asking price was about 32k.Hope this helps, they are great cars, Buy it and drive it!Steve Fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Steve,When I was driving her, yes, it was a bit tight to the steering wheel, but did not look to see if there was any adjustments that could be made. She runs and drives great !! I will need a water pump and one of the carbs is not hooked up, but starts and runs like a champ.Does yours have the "0" in the model number spot as well?I have been very lucky over the years in finding way cool and rare cars for crazy prices. I drove my 42 Super Sedanette out of a barn in Ohio for 3K...for example...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 great car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbuick Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I would have to look at my ID plate and the car is in winter storage. It may take a few weeks to look. A 90l would have jump seats and electric divider window.The one you found has the hard to find bumper ends, Does it have a 5 band radio?- Sounds like you going to buy it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassesguy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Definitely a keeper. Style 41-4933 is a Model 90L so it will have a power operated divider window and pull out jumpseats. No adjustment is available on the front seat due to the divider window. That does make seating up front a little tight; so let someone else drive while you stretch out in the back with something cold to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yes, it has the divider window and the fold-a-way jump seats. I'm not sure about a 5 band radio? it does have a push button radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oracle Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Oshawa did not build any ;41 Limited's but imported them from Flint 'green' and then had them trimmed. These were issued to Generals and the like.MODEL 37.81 H.P. 90 LIMITED 139” W.B. 4-DOOR 6-SEAT TOURING SEDAN [MODEL 41-91/4919]MODEL 37.81 H.P. 90 LIMITED 139” W.B. 4-DOOR 6-SEAT TOURING LIMOUSINE [MODEL 41-90/4923]MODEL 37.81 H.P. 90 LIMITED 139” W.B. 4-DOOR 8-SEAT LIMOUSINE WITH AUXILIARY SEATS [MODEL 41-90L/4933] SERIALS RAN: # 1-3880012 TO 1-4257441ENGINE SERIALS: #9-4085000 TO # 9-4453893FLINT PRODUCTION STARTED 23 AUGUST 1941 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Oracle,So are you saying the "0" in the model line means the car went to the military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oracle Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I would not have thought that the digit meant that. I would have thought that military cars would have had special overall olive drab, but we know that Canadian governmental cars seem to have standard paint jobs. That body # 10 suggests that it is a very early car. I did wonder whether '0' meant that it was a 1940 delivery. Or is it a mis-stamp?David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 I will try to put up the picture of the data plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here is a picture of the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here is a picture of the divider/back seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Here is the data plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I found the car in Pennsylvania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 This is NOT a smart a_ _ comment. You stated it was a barn find, the condition of the car to me looks like it was PARKED in a barn, NOT stored there for years and years, like most barn finds. Almost all barn finds I have come in contact with had lots of bird droppings, mice problems, very dirty, and hadn't been driven in years. Would that be a reasonable assumption? I happy for you, and the Buick,Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 It has sat for a bunch of years due to the owner's passing. I got it from his sibling. I see your point, however, as yes many barn finds do not clean up as well as this one did.I am stationed in Indy !!! Camp Atterbury !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 wildcat70, I live across the road from Geist Lake, just a couple miles from I-69 - I-465 exchange. Thank You for your service to our GREAT COUNTRY, for sure!Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oracle Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 That '0' looks as though it is a seperate stamp from the chassis-line data. I wonder if it is anything to do with the end-user? Being supposedly an early car I discounted it being a frozen stock car that was then released later for official allocation. I shall to have to ask around my military vehicle expert colleagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 Oracle,Were you able to find any additional data on the "0" in the model line of my data plate? I am at a bit of a loss when it comes to the history of the car, as the owner passed and not much information was shared with the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat70 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 More info, The body number is 13964626.She also has a leather front seat, but cannot seem to find that in any reference guide. What that a limo trait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I believe DIVIDER WINDOW cars did have LEATHER TYPE material in front. IMODale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassesguy Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 All Model 90L cars used a leather front seat. Obviously for the chauffer whose work clothes might soil a broadcloth material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shorttimer Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 All Model 90L cars used a leather front seat. Obviously for the chauffer whose work clothes might soil a broadcloth materialGenerally true, but there are often exceptions to the rule. The 90L my father owned was outfitted from the factory with bedford cord on the front seats and broadcloth on the doors (and had a SO# on the body tag). The car was originally ordered by a funeral home here in California, and bedford cord was apparently an attempt to keep the driver cooler in the summer months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Years back the factory OFTEN made EXCEPTIONS. In 1954 a fellow came in to Dad's dealership, ordered a Roadmaster 4-door. He requested, Green body, Bright Red top, and Blue interior. Orders were sent via mail then, soon the factory called and said they wanted to confirm the colors. Dad said YES, you see the owner ownes a Carnival and this would be a Parade car.When it arrived, and the customer came to pick it up he said, SMITTY, ISN'T IT BEAUTIFUL.. So I wouldn't be surprised if in 41 customers couldn't special order. Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassesguy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's the exceptions that really make things interesting for all us old car guys!! On shorttimer's 41, what better documentation could there be than to have the SO# right on the tag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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