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I assume these are tints, which are pure ground colors suspended in solvent.

I had a similar problem. The car came from a deceased collector's daughter in Texas. The car had a title, but not in her name. Our DMV lead me on a wild goose chase on some issue, but the real problem was the name on the Bill of Sale didn't match that on the title. I researched how the seller could the car titled in her name, and she agreed to help. A year later, she told me she didn't have the time. Finally. I got a PA title by taking it to court. Bottom line is: get a Bill of Sale and a title or registration in the name of the seller. In states without titles, get a notarized Bill of Sale. On the old cars the number stamped on the engine or chassis is the VIN. Phil

The AAA was established as a federation of the numerous automobile clubs in the US, including the Automobile Club of Philadelphia. There were several other clubs in the city, also. The Quaker City Motor Club was active in early road racing, including the Fairmount Park races. There was even a Physicians Motor Club of Philadelphia. Phil

My Hupp sold (21k) and I was pleased with the auction. You can go to the site and see the (mostly thoughtful) comments and questions posted. My "Starting a 1911 Hupmobile" video was a hit. I was unable watch as the auction ended, since I had to be at work, but my wife said it was exciting to see two bidders contesting at the end. It's more like a live auction, as the deadline is extended 2 minutes after each bid is placed. BaT never announces when the reserve is met, but they try to accept only reasonable reserves. The winning bidder, an AACA member, also has a 1905 REO. Phil

It Sold! Final bid: $21k. Went to an AACA member. Phil

We'll know tomorrow if it sells or not! Phil

I'm surprised they didn't flag your expired card, bdc. However, when you actually place a bid, they claim they put a temporary charge on your card to be sure the bid is legit. I assume a "live" auction also requires a guarantee of payment before they give you a bidder's paddle. Phil

Bring a Trailer is a pretty popular and established business, so I don't have a problem giving them my card info. Your credit card is only used to insure your bidding is legitimate and to pay their commission at the end; the same as a "live" auction like RM or Bonhams. The method of payment for a winning bid is between the buyer and seller. Has anyone here bought a car there? Phil

Check out the Antique Truck Club of America. Phil

The Runabout was the big seller for Hupp. Of 71 Hupmobile Model 20's on the HCCA Roster, only three are listed as Torpedos and four as Touring models. Phil

My Hupmobile Model 20 "Torpedo" just got listed on "Bring a Trailer." Most of the cars on the site are more recent, high-powered Porsche-type models, so it will be interesting to see what happens. Naturally, I encourage you to bid! https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1911-hupmobile-model-20/ Phil

My Hupp Model 20 Torpedo was just listed on "Bring a Trailer." I've no idea how it will go, but feel free to bid! I'm selling to make room for my latest purchase: a Buick Model 10. Phil

About 10 years back, a friend found the molds and ordered a container load of tires for the Vespa micro-cars, but Customs refused importation because they did not have the D.O.T. approval on them. Apparently, the tires required safety testing to comply with US standards. Perhaps that rule has changed.

You might want to post on the "Metz" section of the Forum so it will be possible for future Metz restorers to find this thread.

If you could borrow an original chain cover and show it to a sheet metal guy, they should be no problem fabricating. I had the chain covers duplicated from an original car for my Model 22. They are surprisingly complex, but there is nothing an ordinary sheet metal shop couldn't make. The curved parts were leather with steel reinforcing, as you can see in the posted photo. These can be peeled open to oil the chain or adjust tension. There is also a piece that slides out to allow installation (also visible in the photo). You don't really need the covers today, as the roads are not what they were in 1913, but they are necessary if you want an original-looking car. Phil

I used 3M striping tape on my 1913 Metz. It's a thin plastic tape that has 1/16" sections that pull off so you end up with, essentially, a stencil to apply your paint. I like it because you can reposition the lines before you actually apply paint. The trick is to pull off the tape as soon as you put on the paint so the edge isn't too sharp. Phil

I may be answering my own questions here. I've discovered the Model 10 Buick transmission does have bands like the Ford T. I assume they were originally woven cotton like Ford used. My next step is to try adjusting them. A hard push on the low or reverse pedals gets very little response, even though they worked pretty well before I towed the car home. Phil

Could anyone explain the adjustments for the Model 10 transmission? I have no plans for it as yet. Does it use bands like the Ford T? Is it adjusted from underneath? Phil

The serial numbers were printed in Franklin Tucker's Antique Automobile article from March/April 1967, pgs 24-25. If you will list your numbers, I can look them up. Phil

Selling six cars by September requires a fast sale, and selling cars takes time. They look very nicely kept and displayed. An auction might be a good choice to get them all sold. RM Sotheby, Bonhams and others come to mind, provided they can be stored until the sale date. At auction, you remove yourself from the hassles of the sales process. If you have prices in mind, you can list them on this Forum (free), the HCCA Forum "Sale" section, the Model T on the MTFCA Forum "Cars For Sale" forum (free).

Offering a spare Metz engine on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124263000174 (SOLD) I got this at Hershey about eight years ago. It has the exhaust and intake manifolds, valve assembly, etc. I can't tell if it's a 22 or 25, as there is no flywheel. Maybe you can tell me from the pictures. Phil

“Our sires’ age was worse than our grandsires’. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt.” Book III of Odes, Horace circa 20 BC More along these lines here.

I just posted this video of starting my Model 20. Phil

Is that hole in the top of the piston?

Thanks for the replies. I just received this from my local title service: (from NY DMV Website) A transferable registration is issued for a 1972 or older motor vehicle, or a 1986 or older motorboat. The transferable portion proves ownership, and is used to sell or give ownership to another person. The registration portion allows the vehicle to be operated on a public road, or a motorboat on a public waterway. "With that being said, we need the transferable registration, the vehicle here for the VIN verification, a current insurance card for the vehicle and your PA drivers license." I keep buying cars that I think are OK for title and then having problems. Here's hoping this one works out! Phil