MrEarl

Keep your eyes open for a 79 Limited tan cloth or vinyl front seat and radio in very good condition.

Story goes that All American Classics in Vancouver Washington https://allamericanclassics.com/ has leased a portion of their property out and is having to clear out the vehicles currently stored on it, therefore will be crushing literally piles of their old cars. They have always laid claim to having saved so many “classics” but I call BS to this current activity. They could have had a big ad campaign to try to sell the cars vs crushing. Hopefully I am misinformed. They call this their Buick pile

If voluminous means very open and airy, yea I guess that is what I am going for . Also for the purpose of accommodating a lift hopefully some day. And yea I'm sure I'll have the walls covered something. Hell with the 2x6 pine wall boards I could hang a 322 block from it if I wanted to. The office area ceiling will be at 12 ft and I wanted that to give the feel of the old show rooms. There will be a big old ceiling fan in the center and a couple of chandelier style lights on both sides of it. I did once consider making a storage room over it but then looked around me and thought to myself "what do I need more storage area for, I'm downsizing remember". I kept thinking about that tin overhang difference and after thinking back that I never did actually measure it, I got a ladder out and measured it today. Actually only about 5/8 to 3/4 inch difference in that 40 ft run so as ol Guy Clark says, hell maybe I can paint over that but (now that I told ya about it) I can't hide it from you so here's a few shots of the chicken house salvage blue board (bb) insulation starting to go up. This is Styrofoam brand Extruded Polystyrene insulation with an R value of 5 per inch. What I am using is 1 inch thick. Hosed it down with a water hose and to answer the question before it is asked, nah, it doesn't smell like a chicken house. I spaced the girts 2 ft apart instead of on center so the 2'x8'x1" pieces of blue board would fit between. Then I taped what gap there was between the girt and bb The smaller frame outs are for thru the wall air conditioners, one on each side, staggered, and then up front will be a combination A/C Heater for the office area. And then on top of the girts I installed 1/2 inch foil faced polystyrene sheathing, leaving 1/2 inch air space between the sheathing and the blue board. The southwest wall gets strong summer sun in the summer so foil facing will act as a radiant barrier. With the 1" bb and the 1/2" sheating I should have an R value of about 8-9. I taped the seams of the sheathing also as this will be my air barrier and the fiberglass batt insulation will breathe from the in side of the building. My plan is to add yet another 1" thk sheet of bb on the inside of the girts, then a 1 inch air space then 3 1/2 inches of un-faced fiberglass batt insulation. The walls will be 1 1/12 inch pine boards. Altogether I should have about R-28 walls. Maybe.

Oh crap, Joel!!! Please tell me it missed the bone. Care to tell us how it happened so maybe I won't do the same thing. So you're putting the decking down and the Amish crew will come in and frame it up. Who's doing the Sheetrock? How will the lower plywood walls be finished out? Is that going to be like a balcony at the top of stairs landing or? Hope that thumb heals up ok with no complications. Up on your tetnus shots I take it

Your post that you are referring to contained the quote of the post that had gotten deleted by a moderator. That is why your post was deleted as it had no further value.

OK it was just where the word “still” was placed in the sentence that threw me off. So, I understand it better when I read it like this - all prewar Buicks will be judged while still parked all-together for any class at the Denver meet Thanks for the explanation

Sounds good Mark, but the word "still" has me confused?

Love that shot! Next time pull it in front of that beautiful old farmhouse of yours though, got that?! curios, is that a future barbecue grill sitting in front of that tree.

You're aware you can view it on line via the BCA website? If like me however I like to view the really nice stuff by hard copy. and your article fits that category

Thanks Ben. I'm sure lots, probably most are viewing this on cell phones and not able to see in detail nor hear the music well enough to appreciate some of it. I really need to catch up on here to where I actually am on the build, which is basically that the outside is 95% complete, so I can start entering my activities daily. But anyway, thanks for following and the kind words.

one inch in 40 ft., no telling where it came from. You're right, I hadn't really thought about it anymore until I started thinking back and writing this. Hell, from the ground you can't even see it anyway. Right again! I considered borrowing a fork lift or renting a material lift. But that would have taken men working on ladders on either end of the truss and me straddling those trusses like you see those guys that do it every day doing. Some things are well worth the money spent. That crane and the roof crew were that for sure. Music with poetry that stirs the soul is the one way to pass on to others, the feelings and emotions you are feeling in the moment. Those words Joel just wrote brought this song to mind. ......using ideas as my maps "We'll meet on edges, soon," said I Proud 'neath heated brow. Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Click it if you like, if not just pass it by..... The material for the walls. Salvaged 2 x 6's 2 ft on center. This is some of the solid but more weathered boards, saving the best looking for facing the interior walls. As an example of "using ideas as my maps" I found some nice little 2 ft wide pine french doors on sale at Lowes for $69 each and will use them for windows on the east side of the building and also on the interior separating the "service" area from the "sales" area. After building frames for the windows, I got started on the walls. These old pine 2X6's are HEAVY and by the time I incorporated the window frame into the 10' wide X 12' tall sections it was about all I could do to raise them into place by myself. Keep in mind this is a pole barn, there's typically no stud walls in a pole barn. These studs were not really structural but rather something to nail all the interior 2 x 6 wall board to and to accommodate the blue board insulation. Also incorporated spaces for thru the wall air conditioners and combo AC and heat in the office area. Funds just not there for central or split system heat pumps. The west side was easy, no windows!!! and from the outside...

I am so much farther along with the build than I am here and it gets hard remembering the sequence of the build and correspinding pictures so bear with me if I forget and have to come back to something *hmmmmm, farther along....never miss a chance to let a thought help pull up a song. This one by The Byrds.....with Gram Parsons... So after the roof was on it was time to start preparing for the concrete floor. After fine grading the subgrade to within 1/4" of grade, I spread and leveled 3 inches of gravel and cut out two 5' x 5' areas for installation of a lift in the future. Placed a double layer of 6 mil poly and taped the seams to act as a moisture barrier. Set the front and back form boards and drove iron pins on 10 ft centers with tops at final floor grade to act as screed guides. They were driven 2-3 inches below top of concrete prior to troweling of concrete Just need to remove the front 2x8 form board and ready for the first of 4 1/2 loads of 3500 psi concrete. Poured 5 inches thick over WELL compacted red Georgia clay, no rebar, no wire, no fiber. Ran a proctor on the soil and 2 density tests as it was being filled and one on top after it had sat a couple of months during rainy season and got 98-100% density on all so I think I will be alright. Started on the back side, made one pour one day, installed an expansion joint and made the other the next day. The back pad only got hand troweling and broom finish. I had gone to the concrete plant and measured the height of an empty truck to insure clearance under the trusses. It measured 12'. I had 12' 6" clearance BEFORE I installed the 3 inches of stone so that meant I now had 3" of clearance. The dispatcher told me that was the tallest of the trucks the had so figured no problem. He also told me they are the same height loaded as unloaded. I found that hard to believe but when checked upon delivery and as the truck pulled out after unloading, there didn't appear to be any difference loaded or not. I kept close watch on them while screeding to ensure they used the pins I had provided them and drove them in before finishing. I watched for puddling of the set water. After it was power troweled and hand blue troweled I hosed it down and didn't have more than a couple of 1/8 in deep bird baths over the whole thing. I can live wit dat.

The first day they got all the trusses and the purlins set. The next morning they started installing the blue board insulation and the tin. I had them set the purlins 2 ft apart so the salvaged blue board would fit between. The blue board is 2'x8', 1 inch thk Extruded Polystyrene and has an Rvalue of 5. I paid $1.00 per sheet and have enough to insulate the roof and walls with 2 layers. (in addition to regular sheathing and batt insulation) Note here also that I had installed some of the salvaged pine 2 x 4's as girts for the siding tin. I spaced them 2 ft apart vs on center so that the blue board insulation would fit in between them. Roof was on and roofers gone by a little after noon. I was not as satisfied with their quality of work on the barn roof as I was the house. I had the building (posts and ends of the truss carriers) square to within 1/4 inch but in the end the tin overhang (that which hangs past the bottom perlin) progresses from the planned 2 inch on one end to almost 3 inches on the other. Oh well, I can live with it. a better view of the girts

Well forget that, after she looks at me like I'm crazy and says "you haven't been out of the house all day have you, the pond is frozen over and it's 2 degrees above freezing out there" But to defy her, I grabbed a couple shots of antifreeze (Bulleit whisky and Coke) and me, Elvis and my cat named Kowpi walked out and hung out in the garage for awhile. So back to the build. But first, some may think I'm being so ecologically savvy by re-purposing all this lumber and stuff when all it is really about is So time for the trusses to go up. Since these were 40 ft long trusses I hired a crane at the minimum rate of $450 for 4 hours and the roofers who had installed the tin roof on my house a couple years ago to help. The cradles I had set for the trusses made quick work of setting the trusses. Trusses set and the crane gone within 1 1/2 hour of starting.No mercy from the crane operator, still charged the full $450. But he was good. The roofers didn't spend a lot of time getting the trusses perfect while the crane was here. The cradles and one or two temp 2x held them in place. They plumbed and set a couple and then headed off to lunch. While they were gone I checked the plumb on the ones they set and the first one was good but not the second one. So before they returned I fixed the second one and made a jig for them to use on the rest of them.

So Matt, whadaya mean "So tha's why the scrambled eggs tasted funny when we were at Buick Gardens last"

Dang,sorry I haven't replied sooner guys, looks like the "follow auto notifications" haven't been working. It takes a REAL craftsman to build onto an existing building that wasn't built plumb, level and square. I learned that while working on our first house, an old Queen Anne that had been moved. No pls anywhere, just character. My dad was a truck driver and I remember to this day from when I was maybe 4-5, his correcting me on backing one of my toy trucks, saying you can't turn that sharp, you're jack knifing it!!! Has come in handy over the years when backing the car trailer, can't wait to see how I do with a 24 footer behind the wagon. My sweet Reet just walked in from work, time for some wine and a stroll around the Gardens. Will try and get back later this evening with another "installment".

Not really, once word got out it was being done, thefts of Oconee County cars hubcaps dropped dramatically.

Them are nice. You may want to put razor blades in the backs of them, that was the way it was done on wire hubcaps back in the late 60's.

Reminds me of winter of '89, a kid walks into my office and says "I'd like to ply fer a job". I told him "it's too wet to ply, come back in the spring" Poor boy never did figure out what I was talkin about. I hired him though.

Looks like you got a set of rubber ones already.

Must have gotten it from Australia

Hmph!! I guess everybody makes a mistake once or twice in their life. Just being facetious Mario. I'm moving it to the Buy/Sell forum so hopefully someone who appreciates an awesome Buick might buy it. Good luck with the sale sir.

The original skins on those things are hideously cheap and thin. Buy you a heavy-duty tarp from tractor supply and you’ll be good for another 2 to 3 years.

probably some kin. Boy's got a tongue!! can scoot a 12 inch bacon skillet across the kitchen floor in about 3 seconds flat, therefore negating the need for me to wash it. Tha's my boy Elvis!!

and played well my good sir, that is ahhhsome!!!!!