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  1. A 1917 Chandler sold for $17,000, anyone know where it went? Hopefully they are in the Chandler-Cleveland Club or will join. https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf19/hershey/lots/r0065-1917-chandler-type-17-seven-passenger-touring/759554
  2. Great story Kevin. Wish we were closer to see the display at the Gilmore. Just as impressive is the dedication your son has. Sounds like the Cole legacy will be in good hands.
  3. I have enough to start a collection or fill in what you need to maybe complete your run. Some are being sold as singles, others as a group by year (volume), some are in binders and one group is bound. Let me know what you need. I'll try to make shipping affordable too. Want these to be read and enjoyed again. Pricing shown below: $20 each issue SOLD--1945 Vol. 7 3--SOLD 1946 Vol. 8 all 1947 Vol. 9 all 1948 Vol. 10 all 1949 Vol. 11 all $15 each issue 1950 Vol. 12 all 1951 Vol. 13 all 1952 Vol. 14 2,3,4 1953 Vol. 15 all 1954 Vol. 16 all 1955 Vol. 17 all 1956 Vol. 18 all 1957 Vol. 19 all 1958 Vol. 20 1,3,4,5 1959 Vol. 21 1,3,4,6 $10 each issue 1960 Vol. 22 all 1961 Vol. 23 1,2 1962 Vol. 24 2,3,4,6 1963 Vol. 25 all 1964 Vol. 26 all 1965 Vol. 27 all 1966 Vol. 28 all 1967 Vol. 29 all 1968 Vol. 30 all 1969 Vol. 31 all $5 each issue 1970 Vol. 32 all 1971 Vol. 33 all 1972 Vol. 34 all 1973 Vol. 35 1,2,3,4,5 1974 Vol. 36 all 1975 Vol. 37 all 1976 Vol. 38 1,2,3,4,5 1977 Vol. 39 1,3,4,5,6 1978 Vol. 40 all 1979 Vol. 41 all 1980 Vol. 42 all 1981 Vol. 43 2,3,4,5,6, 1982 Vol. 44 all 1983 Vol. 45 1,2,4,5,6 1984 Vol. 46 all 1985 Vol. 47 all 1986 Vol. 48 all 1987 Vol. 49 all 1988 Vol. 50 all 1989 Vol. 51 all 1990 Vol. 52 all 1991 Vol. 53 all 1992 Vol. 54 all 1993 Vol. 55 all 1994 Vol. 56 all 1995 Vol. 57 all 1996 Vol. 58 all 1997 Vol. 59 all 1998 Vol. 60 1,2,5,6 1999 Vol. 61 all $3 each issue 2000 Vol. 62 all 2001 Vol. 63 all 2002 Vol. 64 all 2003 Vol. 65 all 2004 Vol. 66 1,3,5,6 2005 Vol. 67 1,2,6 Bound $70 1959 Vol. 21 $65 1960 Vol. 22 HCCA Gazette Binders. $100 each 1957 Vol. 19 No. 6 – 1959 Vol. 21 No. 5 12 issues 1959 Vol. 21 No. 6 – 1961 Vol. 23 No. 5 12 issues 1961 Vol. 23 No. 6 – 1962 Vol. 24 No. 6. 12 issues $60 1963 Vol. 25 No. 1 – 1963 Vol. 25 No. 6. 6 issues Complete run in boxes- make offer 1957 Vol. 19 – 2001 Vol. 63 Magazines are located in Monrovia California. Local pick up is encouraged if you buy in volume.
  4. 1914 Chandler Model 15 still wearing its original set of Jiffy side curtains
  5. Looking good Eric. I see a few differences in six years of development. Interesting that Chandler stayed with the same basic design for so long. I might be wrong but the next generation engine was probably the Pike's Peak motor in 1923.
  6. The 1914 engine was 268 CID and rated at 35 hp
  7. Thank you Layden B, I did look at this option and was advised against it by RF. Thanks
  8. Norm you have a Private Message in your inbox with my contact information.
  9. Need to make some room. If my price is unreasonable make an offer.
  10. Looking for a Jones speedometer cable to fit a model 25. Cable needs to be six feet in length.
  11. Thanks 23hack He was the first place I started, unfortunately he is out of stock at the moment so I am pleading to the masses...
  12. Looking for a Jones speedometer cable to fit a model 25. Cable needs to be six feet in length.
  13. Thank you for sharing this. I really appreciate you sharing an example of another body made by this coach builder.
  14. Seeing some interest, hope a lower price helps find it a new home.....
  15. The story I have been told by the previous family was that the car came into their repair shop here in Southern California many years ago for a repair by a traveling salesman. The salesman dropped the car off and walked home. The car was repaired and the shop waited for the owner to return and claim his car and pay the $50 repair bill. The sedan was placed at the edge of their lot while they waited for the owner to return. After a while with no word from the anonymous owner, they moved the sedan to a building at the back of their property for "temporary storage". Fast forward (maybe a few years I never got a clear timeline) a young man comes into the shop holding a repair bill for $50 for repair of an antique car. The recipt had no details about what car was worked on or details about the shop. The young man was simply canvassing the shops near his dad's house looking for the car his dad owned. It seems his father died crossing the street on his way home from dropping the car off. The shop told the young man the car was in back and could be his after payment of the bill. The young man had no need for the car and left it with the shop where it remained hidden from the world until 2015 when the shop and estate were being closed. The previous owners took the engine, lights, and other items out and they were either sold or lost over the years. What we have today is a great starting point, but not a complete car. The 1920 update added front and rear exhaust heaters to the sedan. A windshield wiper, and a "Pullman" style front seat that folds flat with the rear seat to make a rather large bed that the traveling salesman must have used many times. The attached picture was found by the previous owner at a garage sale. The sale was in his neighborhood. The photo was on a postcard owned by the salesman's family. It was a lucky find and the only picture I have of the car in its complete state. Sadly the image I have is the only copy I have as the picture that was promised to me was never delivered.I can confirm this is a picture of the car as the metal box on the back was still on the car when we took ownership.
  16. The Lozier slogan of the time: "The Choice of Men Who Know. The slogan Chandler adopted: "Built By Men Who Know" Coincidence? I think not 🙂 Like Loizerman I am also a member of the Chandler-Cleveland Club and was fortunate enough to purchase the other 1914 Chandler model 15 touring at the Harold Wintz Estate auction. These early Chandler models were very different than the cars they evolved into as the company began to learn to make cars and innovations on their own.
  17. Hi Mike, Thank you for your question and it's a good one that may not be fully answered by me. It was be real easy if there were a body tag or number that I could cross-reference. I came to this conclusion, "hypothesis" if you will, through my research of the car. Walt's article was a key piece in that research. When first getting the sedan I spent some time cleaning and looking for further clues to its identity. After taking out the rear seat I discovered a small paper tag tucked in between one of the wooden ribs and the aluminum body. At the top of the tag were the words "Body No." written in pencil looked to be the date that was partially visible, but not enough to show the year. There was also a hand written number that might have been four digits long but not clear enough to read. Sadly once the body tag was removed from its hiding place, oxidation started to take its toll on the evidence. While the words Body No. are still visable the pencil markings are no longer able to be read. True story I could not make this up. I know that Chandler did not make their own bodies until 1915 and they looked quite different than what we have here. I have seen pictures of all newer sedan bodies for Chandler and they do not match at all. No other 1915 or earlier Chandler sedans survive according to the Chandler clubs register. The door style being rather curvaceous is near identical to our 1914 Chandler model 15. The door handles match what was on the 1913 Chandler model 13, though these were a common style on more formal cars of the period. The roof line with the added sun visor is a key styling queue that Willoughby did. I found this picture from 1914 taken at Ocean Beach near San Fransisco that looks just like the sedan body I have, but another chassis. This would be consistent with the research that Walt did. I am an active member of the HCCA here in Southern California and have had several of our members look it over and most agree with the conclusion I have come to. The HCCA does not have a requirement to pinpoint a body as many do not have a number on them. Model Ts go by their engine number. Our 1914 Chandler touring like many other cars had a number plate that is affixed to the side of the engine. I've heard the story several times that that body was sometimes kept by the owner and put on a newer or better chassis after the old one wore out. This might explain the six year newer chassis the body now sits on. In 1920 there was nothing like this left without going in for a fully coach built body. I would love to see this put back on the road someday, but I have finally come to the realization that it will not be by me. Too many other projects and not enough room. I hope someone will find this a project worth their time and effort and take it on. Let me know if you have more questions.
  18. Walt G I think we communicated about this sedan when I found your article online "Non-Classic Customs". I was very excited to find some information about these sedan bodies in your article. Here's a link for anyone who wants to learn more: Non-Classic Customs
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