29 Chandler

Harold's 1914 Chandler touring car is the centerfold car for Nov-Dec 2014 edition of the Horseless Carriage Gazette. Beautiful picture of this very early car. Just wish there were mores pictures and a story to go with it. Congratulations Harold and Marie!

Got the car home today. Here are a few more pictures. Will spend some time looking it over this weekend to learn more about what is there and not there. Here is a shot on the way home and in the driveway.

Time for an update. The car is now out in the daylight after being removed from its place of storage for the last several decades. I'll bring a trailer and truck on Friday to bring her home to her new home

Found a source for you on another thread: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/114/3400

How much do you need if I find it?

I have some of the old style 1/4" round packing rope if that will work for you. Its the asbestos and graphite kind that you can not find anymore. If this will work for you I can send you some.

If you find out what size you need let me know. I have some NOS packing material that might fit.

Hi Marie, Thank you for that information. And congratulations on all the event and awards your family's Chandler has won! I would love to see the car someday and get more pictures of it. This sedan body is definitely from pre (late) 1915 when they went to the Springfield bodies. The main difference that we can see in the earlier Willoughby body style is the front side windows are flat. On the Springfield the sedan glass is curved on the front side windows. There are a number of other differences including a pointed detail that can be see on the front doors of the 1913 and 1914 Chandler touring cars that are better documented. I have the book you are referring to and as you noted there is not a picture of the earlier sedans. If you find any other information please let us know. Thanks!

Hi Mike, Nice to here from you its been a long time since we saw you in Seattle at the Chandler Meet. At this point the body not available as we have been looking forward to getting this project for over a decade now. Now that we finally know what we have we are torn as to how to restore it. Matching up the body to the correct chassis is the ultimate goal, but there is supposed to be a picture of the car from 1921 that will be delivered with the car. In that picture we hope to learn more details about when the car was put in its current configuration. After doing more research on the body we are pretty sure that it is a Willoughby body. From what we can tell this was the only year for that body style. Hopefully when we get the car home we can find more details on the car that further confirm this. A couple of interesting modifications that have seen done to the car in its past include: - fitment of four lug hubs and disc wheels - a second gas tank up front with SW vacuum tank - Pullman style fold down front seat - and a big metal rack crudely mounted to the back A couple of thought come to mind as to why these changes were made: - the car was used to to camp in (I've heard this was popular in the 1920's) - maybe it was used for long trips? There were a few Chandlers that traveled across the country in the early days of motor travel. One thing is for sure we will take our time on this one. I still have our 1929 sedan to get running. And we have this dream someday of displaying the first and last Chandler sedans together.

We've done a little more digging on the old Chandler sedan and determined (for now) that it is a 1914 sedan body sitting on a 1920 chassis. We found the chassis number on the right frame rail and looked at more of the details of the car and that lines up whit the serial number. I will be interested to see what year hood I should have on it as it looks like it might have had the 1920 radiator on it. Wonder how that would line up with the 1914 cowl on the body? The speedometer is also correct for 1920 as it drives off the drive shaft and not the front wheel. This car is full of mysteries.

I think Egge can supply you with one. They had one for my six.

Looks a lot like my 1929 model 65. Can you post some pictures of the interior?

Here is the photo of the 1929 model 85

Nice find. Which body style did you get? Post a picture to share.

Here's your first peak of the oldest (newest) Chandler to our collection of cars. Its an early Chandler sedan. There are several conflicting clues on this one to help us nail down the exact year. When the light is better and access is better I'll know the year of the frame better. Been sitting here for several decades. This will be a long term project, but one worth saving from the scrape heap. Car is not home yet, but when it is I will be pouring all over it for clues to its history.

The serial number is correct for a 1929 model 65. From that angle the model 65 details look correct, like the hubcaps, lights and front bodywork. This one looks nicely done, but I doubt that it was done by the factory. At this point Huppmobile was putting Chandler cars togther from the parts they had on hand to complete the run. I suppose it is possible that it came from the factory, but I have never seen reference to the factory producing a "Huckster". Would be a neat driver on tours or around town. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Jim, No Chandler did not produce such a body to the best of my knowledge. 1929 was the last year for this make as Hupp bought them in 1928 it seems mostly for their big factory so they could increase production of their own make and knock off some of their competition. Parts are hard to come by for a Chandler of any vintage as Chandler made a lot of their own parts including drivetrains. Would love to see pictures of the car and more info about it including the serial number to confirm its year of manufacture. As far as finding parts you might try posting wanted ads on this forum and if you have not done so join the Chandler-Cleveland Car Club, dues are very reasonable and Roger puts out a great newsletter. Chris

Amstrong, As Dwight said post some pictures and take some measurements and we can help you. It will also help if you can identify which model you have. There was a small and big six and a small and big eight in 1929.

At least on my 28 and 1929 Chandler the radiator was made by Harrison, a pretty popular supplier. If you don't mind a period accessory in place of the original, a moto-meter Sr. is a good choice or one of the many novelty after market units that were popular then.

Great newsletter! Glad I was able to get my copy and thanks for the reminder to renew so I don't miss anything. I love all the vintage photos you have included. Will you be posting updates on the car Registry in future issues? All you Chandler-Cleveland owners out there don't forget to post you car's info for us all to share! Thanks Editors

Thanks Jeff. I think I have that car in my registry. If not, I'll have to seek out some more info on it.

Welcome to the club Tassie. Your eBay Chandler is a real find. If I only had the room I would have been a bidder on it too. PLEASE, please document as much as you can on the car when it arrives. These cars are so rare and one that has sat as long as that car is such a treasure of information. I've got some information on these cars and will be happy to help where I can. Send me a private message when you get the car if you would like me to add your Chandler cars to the Chandler Registry. I am sure the Chandler Club would love you to write up a small story on your new find if you are so inclined :-) BTW in the third picture on the cowl in the background you have a Kingston Vacuum Tank for the fuel on a 1929 Chandler these are pretty rare and were used on Chandler cars for only the last year of 1929. Again I have more info on these I can provide.

OK, who got it? Introduce yourself. This is just the way we got into the hobby, got an email from the club asking if we wanted more information on the car we just bought.

Can you imagine the meetings the salesmen must have had. "Now let's go over this again, don't let the customer push that plunger on the firewall!" Oh, not again.....

It was a messy idea. Not popular with the showrooms. The device was way over used and made a mess. When used according to design it would really extend the life of the suspension.