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That pair of Hibbard & Darrin Duesenbergs deserves close-ups:

Margery's Roamer has it all: showy light color, cycle-fenders, step-plates, side-mounts, wire-wheels, whitewall tires, and a polished aluminum hood! Wonder if it was the four passenger Sport model? Whichever body style, its the very picture of WW1-era upscale sport luxury and style, even if it was one of those "assembled" cars. At a glance it would be easily mistaken by most of the public as a Rolls-Royce. It does have 'a certain insouciance' about it... I wrote this when Craig posted a Roamer photo in the Orphan of the Day topic on the Studebaker Drivers Club Forum: Ahhh, Roamer! It was the prefect early example of a assembled car developed to sell the sizzle rather than the steak. While it's pretentiously styled with a luxury, sporting bent; the prosaic, proprietary powerplant delivered less-than-satisfying performance than their appearance promised. Yet if found currency with the celebrities of the day, not unlike the du Pont.The advertising was even sillier, naming itself "American's Smartest Car", using tony phrases to describe it such as possessing "a certain insouciance". But it was the frivolous, Roaring Twenties, so it was just exactly in tune with the times.

Interesting, this would be the third pre-war Roadmaster I've seen or am now aware of that has had an automatic retrofitted. Years ago, I encountered two different Roadmaster sedans, a 1940 and 1941, both which had Dyna-Flow and related parts fitted at one time. The backstory on the 1941 was its owner drove it through 1949, kept it in nearly showroom condition and intended to do so for much longer. He then had his Buick dealer replace the 1941 engine and transmission with a new 320 engine and Dyna-Flow along with other rebuilds and updates. Apparently, motivation also came from his wife who wanted the ease of driving an automatic transmission equipped Buick.

The Antique Studebaker Club is your best resource for information on pre-WWII Studebaker Presidents. The 1929-1930 Model FE was the 135 inch wheelbase with seven passenger body styles for the most part. https://antiquestudebakerclub.org/ Your chassis has the 337 cubic inch L-head straight eight, which will give you a high power-to-weight ratio in a short, light-weight speedster. Good luck with your project, please start a project blog under the Speedster topic section so we can follow your progress.

Wow, a 1932 Graham convertible sedan! Truly wish the 837 was still in production and they would have built a Blue Streak versions.

In the early decades, to establish dealerships in smaller rural towns and crossroad, anyone who bought a car and was willing to represent the make could get a franchise, that's how eager companies were to build a dealer network. Wagon repair and blacksmith, even hardware stores took a franchise for a variety of makes, except Ford who wanted them to be exclusive. The entrepreneur taking on the dealership better have a garage or at least small shop and be mechanically handy or have someone who was because cars were frequently shipped only partly assembled on pallets to save shipping costs. Farm implement dealers were a good choice given their location and familiarity with complex machinery. Upstarts of all sorts even into the 1920s like Durant granted dealership to any little crossroad operator just to get coverage. Of course, most didn't make enough to survive long on sales as the industry shook out, fell back to used cars after their make failed. Even our little town of a few hundred had a Star-Durant dealership in the 1920s out of a one- stall garage. In trade publications, in the lower right corner were clip-out invitations to apply for a dealership by mail. Wonder if I'm ever going the hear from Graham-Paige? I sent my notice of interest regarding their offer of dealerships in profitable areas in years ago...

A better look at the '10's town car and '20's speedster What's its:

The Standard Catalog edited by Kimes and Clark list: [CH} In-Line, L-head. Eight, Cast-iron block B X S: 3 1/2 X 5 in.: 384.84 cu. in. C.R. 5.2:1, Brake H.P. 125 @ 3200 R.P.M.

Seems if a '32 Chrysler Imperial CH would have been an ideal police pursuit car, same engine and 125 horsepower as the CG/CL Custom Imperial but built on the 135" wb and somewhat lighter weight.

Good advice, use discretion and a bit of courtesy when posting a C-L collector car for sale that is not your own. Discretion would be unusually offered orphan make cars, nicely-preserved original cars and trucks of all makes. A disclaimer that no endorsement of asking price is implied by posting it for consideration. The addition of one or two of the better photo and pertinent description from the posting also a courtesy. Craigslist postings tend to be over-priced, many badly so, that's a given. It also tends to be loaded with plenty of popular make and model collector car listings which are not hard to find anywhere in the country, making a re-posting of those simply unnecessary. Apply a measure of common sense, discretion and courtesy and we'll all enjoy and benefit.

Thanks DodgeBrother for the information, interesting collection you have there. For comparisons and the record:

If looking down the hoods of those Rolls-Royces doesn't shake off the lock-down blues...NOTHING WILL!!!!! Thanks for the post, ED. Color me and all who observed you drive those sublime chariots green with envy....

Its a 1928 Packard Custom Eight 443 sedan-limousine, body style no. 316. The two-tone paint treatment of the upper surfaces and window reveals makes it look unusual.

Typical fanciful artist rendering of a period convertible for illustration.

1953-'54 was the end of the once-popular medium-priced six cylinder market segment, the smaller displacement V8 taking its place. Chrysler, DeSoto, Pontiac, Kaiser quit offering those for 1955, Hudson and Nash after 1956, only Dodge soldiered on but that was with the longer term objective to enter the low-priced field with its 1960 Dodge Dart. Plymouth was looking nervously over its shoulder at big brother Dodge...

More than one dealership accessory display no doubt had a promotion to "update your Packard to the modern look" with a set of the new parabolic style to replace the 'old-fashioned' drum headlights and cowl lights.

The Ford Rotunda postcard is interesting, how about a large image?

Its the Wills Sainte Claire Vogue Brougham club sedan parked at the curb with the three boys clowning for the camera near it. Early Model A taxis probably are rare now, since most all were run into the ground.

I have no personal interest or stake in the eventual sales of either truck. The '37 Plymouth truck is scarce enough, but how many 1939 Fargo trucks do we suppose still exist. The Fargo looks more like the Plymouth truck, has the 201 ci engine, versus the same year Dodge and a 218 ci six. 1937 Plymouth pick-up truck: https://altoona.craigslist.org/cto/d/johnstown-plymouth-1937-pick-up/7114039118.html 1939 Fargo pick-up truck: https://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/d/niagara-falls-1939-fargo-pickup/7107906934.html

Too many focus on the big money it seems to take to have an old car to enjoy. But, if you keep your objectives modest and can appreciate the intrinsic qualities many older sedans have to offer, ownership can be a rewarding experience for you and your family. I have no personal interest or stake in the eventual sales of either car. Two 1953 Chrysler Windsor Deluxe sedan, for your consideration: https://boise.craigslist.org/cto/d/hammett-53-chrysler-windsor-deluxe/7110363756.html https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/d/bellevue-1953-chrysler-windsor-deluxe/7116198468.html

In the timeframe this Don Lee-bodied Pierce-Arrow was built, Don Lee was the Cadillac distributor for California, worked closely with Earl Automobile Works where Harley Earl was involved with designing their custom bodies. Although direct credit would be difficult to verify, good likelihood this body is one of Harley Earl's earliest designs.

Sorry, I don't have insights on the iPhone because I don't have one, never have been able to justify the cost for what little use I'd make of it. But, I do know that it too is a tracking, contacts and personal information collection device that's useful to the companies that provide the service. For those that have internet on their iPhone, its the best of all worlds for companies involved. Will someone with knowledge of the intricacies of the iPhone business model weigh in with information please?

When the Cadillac tailfin taillights became all the rage in those years, aftermarket companies jumped in with versions designed to fit on the fender profile with minimum holes to drill and mount, wired in with the regular taillights. Years ago used to encounter mildly customized cars in junkyards of all makes with those 'fancy' Cadillac-style taillights.

The closest match I can find is a 1928 Packard Custom 443 Sedan-Limousine by Judkins, The Coachbuilt Packard by Hugo Pfau, page 134. Caption mentions it was displayed at the November 1927 New York Salon, as well as used a rendering to illustrate their advertisement in the Salon catalogue. The one feature which isn't visible in the photo are the bottom door corners sweep forward. The headlight are later, maybe from the 1929 640 and 645.

Its called "personal information data mining": offer the participants who can log on for free a seemingly benign site where they can connect with family and friends, share photos and common interest and 'likes'. What happens in the background are algorithms collecting every 'like' click, every shopping brows, who one's friends and contacts are, indications of interest of all varieties, social and political persuasion, in short, a profile or in the more sinister term, 'dossier' on every participant. To keep the participant engaged, they receive a steady stream of contact responses, memes, videos, and advertising selected specially for their interests. What does Facebook get? With this information, the person can be directed advertising and promotion of all stripes for which the charge the companies, have their personal information marketed to any company or organization seeking to target their products and services. Check Facebook's market value to see how well this business model works. But to the original subject, kudos AACA Forums, moderator and participants for giving us a civil refuge here daily.