Eric11 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) While examining family history material in boxes - we came across a number of images - of which I am sharing here - not dated nor no known location. I am aware that one of my Murphy relatives was an avid racer in South Jersey - but that is the extent of knowledge. The photos were included in a portfolio provided by C. Y. LaTour of Wyncote, Pa. Any help would be appreciated. E. M. Edited March 13, 2023 by Eric11 did not know rules about one item per que (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Studebaker truck in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric11 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Thanks - so far - thank you to person that ID the Duesenberg symbol on another relative driver - brought me to indy Museum. - discovered my 2nd gr uncle - Harry Hartz - This is not in the museum images - taken before the race that day - he won 2nd place Indy 1926 - Thank you for the hint to start for this image - now for the others lol Edited March 13, 2023 by Eric11 corrected info (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Notice the Hartz sign behind the front of this car back near the fence. It might be a pit board used by his race crew to give him race updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It looks like the shadows of eight exhaust header pipes coming out into that collector pipe so it should be a straight 8 under the hood. That may narrow it down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalowed Bill Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 My guess is that the driver is Harry Hartz. He worked for Studebaker, it looks like him and it would have been in a time frame that Studebaker was showing itself to be more then competitive on tracks and hill climbs. If this is a Studebaker it could have been a straight 8, but it would have been very early, since the Studebaker 8 came out in 1928. It just as likely could have been the 354cu" Big Six. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hartz#:~:text=Harry Hartz (24 December 1896 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 HH hand painted on the inside of the wheels. A Buick and a Franklin behind the fence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peezduk Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/7621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 15 hours ago, 28 Chrysler said: HH hand painted on the inside of the wheels. A Buick and a Franklin behind the fence. I saw those too, very neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Buffalowed Bill said: My guess is that the driver is Harry Hartz. He worked for Studebaker, it looks like him and it would have been in a time frame that Studebaker was showing itself to be more then competitive on tracks and hill climbs. If this is a Studebaker it could have been a straight 8, but it would have been very early, since the Studebaker 8 came out in 1928. It just as likely could have been the 354cu" Big Six. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hartz#:~:text=Harry Hartz (24 December 1896 The whole car is quite compact and I guess this is in the 91 cubic inch era. The engine is most likely a Miller. Somewhere I have a copy of a history book of this era of racing. I recall reading that a Miller 91 engine was $7,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) ATLANTIC CITY SPEEDWAY - speedwayandroadracehistory Scroll down a little on the above link and there's more info. Edited March 14, 2023 by hursst (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric11 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 Thanks to all that got me on the right track with these photos - yes - they seem to be one of a kind - Your information also led me to my 3rd uncle Murphy that raced against him - THis was invaluable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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