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LeBaron body tag.... anybody think this is real?


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Interesting discussion, I note that much has been said about hood/cowl intersection.

 

If one goes to the auction site, looks at video and picture from other side of car, one can see that the cowl fit is just fine.

 

There appears to be a top hood hinge which stands proud of the top of the hood, and in the main picture that and the light reflections make it look odd, it’s not.

 

At the right price, and sorted, would make a fun driving car which John Q. Public would fawn over.  
 

Purists would always beat owner up at every chance they got, of course, so the backroads, cruising, would be the most fun.

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This car recently sold at Meacum Auction in Dallas.  It has a Graham 6 cylinder engine number stamped onto an 8 cylinder engine.  The title has the 6 cylinder number on it too.

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The two LeBaron bodied Graham-Paige cars, both on 137 inch wheelbase

 

Number one; 1929 Graham-Paige 837 Laundet, this one was donated to Pope Pius XI Ratti in 1929 (there was more than one made)

 

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Today...

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The second is the 1929 New York Auto Show, 837 Dual Cowl Phaeton all in polished aluminum and red (fenders, wheels, interior, and undercarriage all in red) in 1929

 

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As it looks today...

 

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Both victims of horrible (historically incorrect) restorations.

 

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9 hours ago, 28anut said:

This car recently sold at Mecum Auction in Dallas.  It has a Graham 6 cylinder engine number stamped onto an 8 cylinder engine.  The title has the 6 cylinder number on it too.

Might have been a "25% More-Free!" Black Friday deal.

 

Craig

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Word was it was assembled from a bunch of Graham parts.   Graham radator maybe, wrong headlights, wrong headlight bar, 1928 tail light...maybe 1928 body, 1929 hood, 1931 wheels, dont get me wrong I would love the car even in its current colors (bottom). 

 

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My guess is it started life as a 1928 Graham-Paige 835 Dual Cowl, just like Pauline Frederick's Graham.

 

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On 11/1/2022 at 11:36 PM, Graham Man said:

 

 

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As it looks today...

 

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Both victims of horrible (historically incorrect) restorations.

 

    Historically  Incorrect restoration or not, it's beautiful car,  I would be pround to own it.  Most restorations look better now than when they were      new, including my cars.

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1 hour ago, Paul Dobbin said:

    Historically  Incorrect restoration or not, it's beautiful car,  I would be pround to own it.  Most restorations look better now than when they were      new, including my cars.

Besides the different wheels, front fender, hood, and tail light bracket, it is JUST LIKE the car in the vintage black & white photo. 

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2 hours ago, Paul Dobbin said:

    Historically  Incorrect restoration or not, it's beautiful car,  I would be pround to own it.  Most restorations look better now than when they were      new, including my cars.

 

14 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

Besides the different wheels, front fender, hood, and tail light bracket, it is JUST LIKE the car in the vintage black & white photo. 

      I don't mind the wheels, but the old picture pf the unrestored car is of the left side and the restored car is the right side.   Maybe it didn't come with dual side mounts        and the louvers may have been different from side to side for a reason.   Also the right tail light could be after market as many were.   Still a beautiful car to me.

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On 10/29/2022 at 10:56 AM, Graham Man said:

Just noticed the front mounted water pump in the block, behind the fan... what year did that start? 

 

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I posted an enquiry re the engine on a Studebaker forum. It was suggested that the first of the President 8s, the 313 cid FA series had its water pump at the front.

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