trimacar Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Interesting discussion, I note that much has been said about hood/cowl intersection. If one goes to the auction site, looks at video and picture from other side of car, one can see that the cowl fit is just fine. There appears to be a top hood hinge which stands proud of the top of the hood, and in the main picture that and the light reflections make it look odd, it’s not. At the right price, and sorted, would make a fun driving car which John Q. Public would fawn over. Purists would always beat owner up at every chance they got, of course, so the backroads, cruising, would be the most fun. Edited November 1, 2022 by trimacar (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 This car seems to have the same parallel lack of history as this '29 Studebaker: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28anut Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 This car recently sold at Meacum Auction in Dallas. It has a Graham 6 cylinder engine number stamped onto an 8 cylinder engine. The title has the 6 cylinder number on it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 The two LeBaron bodied Graham-Paige cars, both on 137 inch wheelbase Number one; 1929 Graham-Paige 837 Laundet, this one was donated to Pope Pius XI Ratti in 1929 (there was more than one made) Today... The second is the 1929 New York Auto Show, 837 Dual Cowl Phaeton all in polished aluminum and red (fenders, wheels, interior, and undercarriage all in red) in 1929 As it looks today... Both victims of horrible (historically incorrect) restorations. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 hours ago, 28anut said: This car recently sold at Mecum Auction in Dallas. It has a Graham 6 cylinder engine number stamped onto an 8 cylinder engine. The title has the 6 cylinder number on it too. Might have been a "25% More-Free!" Black Friday deal. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Whatever happened to the custom bodied Graham Paige Dual Cowl owned by the cigarette company in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, Restorer32 said: Whatever happened to the custom bodied Graham Paige Dual Cowl owned by the cigarette company in Canada? I believe that car was discussed here: Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURTRUK Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 The owner is now inquiring on the Studebaker Drivers Club Forum about the engine: https://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/forum/your-studebaker-forum/tech-talk/1968576-album?view=stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Word was it was assembled from a bunch of Graham parts. Graham radator maybe, wrong headlights, wrong headlight bar, 1928 tail light...maybe 1928 body, 1929 hood, 1931 wheels, dont get me wrong I would love the car even in its current colors (bottom). My guess is it started life as a 1928 Graham-Paige 835 Dual Cowl, just like Pauline Frederick's Graham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 11/1/2022 at 11:36 PM, Graham Man said: As it looks today... Both victims of horrible (historically incorrect) restorations. Historically Incorrect restoration or not, it's beautiful car, I would be pround to own it. Most restorations look better now than when they were new, including my cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul Dobbin said: Historically Incorrect restoration or not, it's beautiful car, I would be pround to own it. Most restorations look better now than when they were new, including my cars. Besides the different wheels, front fender, hood, and tail light bracket, it is JUST LIKE the car in the vintage black & white photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Paul Dobbin said: Historically Incorrect restoration or not, it's beautiful car, I would be pround to own it. Most restorations look better now than when they were new, including my cars. 14 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: Besides the different wheels, front fender, hood, and tail light bracket, it is JUST LIKE the car in the vintage black & white photo. I don't mind the wheels, but the old picture pf the unrestored car is of the left side and the restored car is the right side. Maybe it didn't come with dual side mounts and the louvers may have been different from side to side for a reason. Also the right tail light could be after market as many were. Still a beautiful car to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 10:56 AM, Graham Man said: Just noticed the front mounted water pump in the block, behind the fan... what year did that start? I posted an enquiry re the engine on a Studebaker forum. It was suggested that the first of the President 8s, the 313 cid FA series had its water pump at the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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