Bright Star Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 56,000 original miles Starts, runs, drives These are rare Located in Yucca Valley PM me for phone number Price: $59,000/BO This beautiful and stylish Stutz is the model that was a favorite of Elvis Presley and countless other Hollywood stars, even Lucille Ball and Sammy Davis, Jr.. If you're looking for a '70s Stutz, then you already know everything I could say. Those who don't, please do a Google search. I am helping my 82 year old neighbor sell this garage queen. Bear with me, I don't know everything about it, but I could try to answer your questions and send you more photos. I just took it for a test drive. This car runs like a dream. No problems there. Needs a little TLC, but nothing major. The leather seats show wear. Tires are excellent. Body is straight. There is a blemish in the paint due to rust (see photo) just under the right side faux exhaust pipe behind the front wheel. A good body shop could hit that area and make it disappear. Other than that, this car is still going strong. All the chrome is fabulous. It's 99% amazing. Just needs someone younger to love it. Taking offers now. Please feel free to message me. 1978 Stutz Black Hawk Edited August 15, 2020 by Bright Star added words (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 All the best to you on the sale, Mr. Bright Star, but you might give a phone number, and indicate the location. Palm Springs, California? Palm Springs, Florida? Palm Springs, Nova Scotia? I'm sure your older neighbor is grateful to you for your kind help in selling his interesting car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said: Palm Springs, Nova Scotia? I think you can rule this one out unless they have palm trees up there.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Star Posted August 15, 2020 Author Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) On 8/11/2020 at 2:48 PM, John_S_in_Penna said: All the best to you on the sale, Mr. Bright Star, but you might give a phone number, and indicate the location. Palm Springs, California? Palm Springs, Florida? Palm Springs, Nova Scotia? I'm sure your older neighbor is grateful to you for your kind help in selling his interesting car. Thank you for your comment. BTW, the neighbor is a woman. She loves the car but doesn't drive it anymore. I have edited this ad to show the exact city where the car is located -- Yucca Valley, 25 miles from Palm Springs. I used Palm Springs because who has heard of Yucca Valley? Our claim to fame is that we now have an Arby's. Is there any other way for people to reach my besides through posting a comment? I will be sure to check this post more often, and answer any questions that come up. Very sorry if I'm doing this wrong. I mean well. Motivated seller here. Edited August 15, 2020 by Bright Star (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 They can leave you a PM (Private Message) so you can give them more info on the car and also your phone number without everyone else seeing it if you are so inclined. Good luck with the sale.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Star Posted August 15, 2020 Author Share Posted August 15, 2020 Thanks, Lebowski.That's very kind of you to tell me. BTW, love your avatar. My favorite movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 10:14 PM, Lebowski said: I think you can rule this one out unless they have palm trees up there.... No palm trees in Nova Scotia for sure. These are built using a Pontiac Grand Prix to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Star Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ed Luddy said: No palm trees in Nova Scotia for sure. These are built using a Pontiac Grand Prix to start? They weren't made in America by Pontiac, in case anybody thinks that. I don't know what they were putting in the pasta over there, but it was an Italian design genius who got the crazy idea to create this mystical beast. They were built in Italy using some Pontiac parts, among other sources. Wiki says this: "Blackhawk uses Pontiac Grand Prix running gear, Pontiac's 7.5 L (455 in³) V8 engine, and a GM TH400 three-speed automatic transmission." Also, Ford, Chevrolet and Cadillac engines were used. There was no dedication to one car brand. The dedication was focused on the overall result. In Italy, from 1971 to 1987, at a rate of six a month, , they made a total of 600 Black Hawks over the entire run. Are there palm trees in Italy? Anybody? Edited August 16, 2020 by Bright Star (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malo48 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Thanks for the info - I have long been curious about these cars and even had the Hot Wheels version as a kid (still have it). I can picture this one on the streets of Palm Springs at the same time Sammy Davis was cruising around in his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Hello Bright Star, I am curious, is your neighbor the original owner of this Blackhawk and/or does it retain the dash plaque with original owner's name? Cheers, Greg (I know where Yucca Valley is 😄) Edited August 16, 2020 by GregLaR (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Star Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) On 8/16/2020 at 9:46 AM, GregLaR said: Hello Bright Star, I am curious, is your neighbor the original owner of this Blackhawk and/or does it retain the dash plaque with original owner's name? Cheers, Greg (I know where Yucca Valley is 😄) The current owner, a woman who is now 82, inherited the car in 1983 from a wealthy horse trainer, who died suddenly under a cloud of mystery at age 42. Although her death was declared a suicide, some believed her death should have been investigated further. There was a lot of money involved, apparently. The true story is stanger than fiction. There is no plaque because somebody didn't want to see the original owner's name. And I get that since you pay a lot of money and it's your car and all. Today I learned there may be only 12 1978 Stutz Blackhawks left. The owner is interested in reasonable offers. Edited August 24, 2020 by Bright Star (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Well now.... the only thing better than great car pics, is great car pics with a mystery attached! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Here is most of the scoop anyone would need: http://www.madle.org/ecompany.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Star Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 Thanks for the link to famous owners of this car, 60FlatTop. I like knowing Willie Mays had a Stutz Blackhawk. I watched him and the other Giants play at Candlestick Park when I was a child. He was my hero growing up. His name on the list of owners is the most rewarding for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/16/2020 at 7:35 AM, Bright Star said: They weren't made in America by Pontiac, in case anybody thinks that. I don't know what they were putting in the pasta over there, but it was an Italian design genius who got the crazy idea to create this mystical beast. They were built in Italy using some Pontiac parts, among other sources. The Stutz Blackhawk was NOT designed by an "Italian designer" on heroin pasta. The original 1960's iterations of the Stutz Blackhawk, Duesenberg, Mercer Cobra, Bugatti Type 101C, and a Packard were all designed by ex-Chrysler designer, Virgil Exner, and made by Ghia in Italy. https://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/forum/your-studebaker-forum/stove-huggers-the-non-studebaker-forum/55299-orphan-of-the-day-08-24-1966-duesenberg-1980-stutz-iv-porte Only the Stutz saw the light of day as a "production" vehicle which was based on either a Pontiac Grand Prix or a Bonneville, depending if it was a two door or a four door. The bodies were shipped to Italy where the expensive modifications were done to the exterior and interior. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I always thought these cars were special, after a bit of reading makes me want to buy this one, only need to hit the lotto numbers tonight! Todays equivalent price of a 77 S Blackhawk, over $200,000. new. Elvis had the first one sold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The split windshield cars were not based on Pontiac bodies. Those were fabricated in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Star Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 14 hours ago, TAKerry said: I always thought these cars were special, after a bit of reading makes me want to buy this one, only need to hit the lotto numbers tonight! Todays equivalent price of a 77 S Blackhawk, over $200,000. new. Elvis had the first one sold! Since putting this 1978 Stutz up for sale, I've run into a collector of Stutzes, and he said he has an Elvis Blackhawk in Pennsylvania. I think he said it's a 1972, and it's not for sale. Below is a photo of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 One of Elvis' cars was sold off, an Elvis impersonator had it for awhile in Vegas, that may be the one. Another was wrecked and put into storage. After his death it was restored and is now on display at Graceland. Dont recall how many he owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, 60FlatTop said: The split windshield cars were not based on Pontiac bodies. Those were fabricated in Italy. From the beginning they used a Grand Prix drivetrain, threw everything else away. They later decided it wasnt cost effective and started using some of the Pontiac. I saw a split window car for sale in the upper $300k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Hi, can I please ask if the Stutz has sold? Thank you. Glyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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