1920's dodge truck hub puller?

[harvest]

found this tool in my friends garage and I have no idea what it could have been used for.  Up on his property he has an old dodge truck in pieces I think a 1926-27 model?  it has the solid rear wheels.  anyway, I was thinking this tool might be for that truck?  would anyone perhaps know exactly what tool I have here and maybe its not even for a dodge truck?   Only marking on this puller is "1930" and I believe its for a 2 & 15/16 or 3" hub.   my thread gauge reads 16 threads per inch.  appreciate your shared knowledge and thoughts on this tool. thanks

Edited February 24, 2019 by harvest (see edit history)

[Guest]

It is a wheel/hub puller for a vehicle with tapered axles and the same size screw on hub caps as the puller.  To pull the wheel you remove the hub cap and the axle nut.  Screw the puller on the wheel/hub, tighten the side bolt and tighten the tee bar to remove the wheel.

[harvest]

tin, thank you.  would you think its from a dodge truck?  

[Guest]

It could be.  These are all specific to the threaded hub.  I don't think any car builder made these.  I have never seen one with an auto makers name.  There were kits made with various sizes of pullers but most were specific sizes.  

 

[harvest]

understood,  thank you again. 

[keiser31]

18 hours ago, Tinindian said:

It could be.  These are all specific to the threaded hub.  I don't think any car builder made these.  I have never seen one with an auto makers name.  There were kits made with various sizes of pullers but most were specific sizes.  

 

Actually there ARE a few auto manufacturers who made them and have the car name on them, but they are rare. I have seen a few in my day.

Edited February 25, 2019 by keiser31 (see edit history)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, keiser31 said:

Actually there ARE a few auto manufacturers who made them and have the car name on them, but they are rare. I have seen a few in my day.

I guess with your photo talent and 30,000+ posts you would have seen things that I had never heard of.😊

[30DodgePanel]

On 2/24/2019 at 6:36 AM, harvest said:

found this tool in my friends garage and I have no idea what it could have been used for.  Up on his property he has an old dodge truck in pieces I think a 1926-27 model?  it has the solid rear wheels.  anyway, I was thinking this tool might be for that truck?  would anyone perhaps know exactly what tool I have here and maybe its not even for a dodge truck?   Only marking on this puller is "1930" and I believe its for a 2 & 15/16 or 3" hub.   my thread gauge reads 16 threads per inch.  appreciate your shared knowledge and thoughts on this tool. thanks

 

 

 

I'm guessing this puller was a universal generic type sold in various publications from the time period (various shop and tool magazines like National Garage Tools). Could be wrong but I think IF it was from a specific automobile maker it would be stamped with manufacturers name and possibly numbers.

 

Here's a sample list of the closest listing I have to 2 15/16 or 3" (this may or may not be useful to you).

It's for 2 7/8 16 TPI showing the many cars a 2 7/8" puller would possibly work on. I do not have the year breakdown because this info was passed on from another board member.

Not sure how adjustable these tools may have been but figured it might help put things into perspective a bit more. 

 

Have you measured the friends 1926-27 Dodge Truck axle hubs yet ? Please share photos if you wouldn't mine, I'm confident we can help ID it further if he wants the help.

[harvest]

Hi 30Dodge,  I havnt yet to see my buddie who has that old dodge truck. I appreciate you posting that info for the hub pullers.  Would you happen to know what this hub puller I have here in my hands today could possibly fit?  Its 2 and 3/8 diam and has the UNF 24tpi measurement.  Again thank you for your time. 

[30DodgePanel]

Just now seeing this sorry for the delay. Will try and respond with results this weekend when I get home.

[30DodgePanel]

Sorry it took so long to reply. Life happens...then the memory failed to recall where this was.

 

Here's a list has 2 3/8" x 24 tpi as 1917 Maxwell

 

Cheers

Dave

 

Edited April 14, 2019 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history)

[harvest]

Dave, Really appreciate that info!   It would have taken me a lifetime to figure that out even if I had a Maxwell!   LOL.    What a world with the internet!   Thank you again. What a great gang of members here!  

[30DodgePanel]

On 4/15/2019 at 2:16 PM, harvest said:

Dave, Really appreciate that info!   It would have taken me a lifetime to figure that out even if I had a Maxwell!   LOL.    What a world with the internet!   Thank you again. What a great gang of members here!  

 

You're welcome.

 

Let me know what you find out from your friend about his truck. Always needing more input from the Dodge and Graham Brothers truck owners for data. Tell your friend we need wheelbase, frame, engine #'s or build card data would be icing on the cake for our research. If he wants to contact me directly I can send my email in a PM so you don't have to play the middle man.

[Dale Tharp]

Good Morning this is Dale in Ks. and Montana I was just reading you guys info. on hub pullers and trying to educate my self on these, witch I do have a couple of. Then I came to the Dodge / Graham Brothers truck topic, I do have a 28 Graham Brothers mostly restored in Montana, I would be glad to add to your list or give you any data off it I can find,  Iam purdy sure it has a good engine number and frame number if I can locate them on the vehicle. If I could figure out how to put pictures on here I would send a pic. I clicked where it said to chose files, but my photos didn’t come up and none of the grand kinds are around this morning!  dale.tharp@gmail.com  /  620 332 4932  thanks for all the info guys. 

[30DodgePanel]

On 9/23/2019 at 5:07 AM, Dale Tharp said:

Good Morning this is Dale in Ks. and Montana I was just reading you guys info. on hub pullers and trying to educate my self on these, witch I do have a couple of. Then I came to the Dodge / Graham Brothers truck topic, I do have a 28 Graham Brothers mostly restored in Montana, I would be glad to add to your list or give you any data off it I can find,  Iam purdy sure it has a good engine number and frame number if I can locate them on the vehicle. If I could figure out how to put pictures on here I would send a pic. I clicked where it said to chose files, but my photos didn’t come up and none of the grand kinds are around this morning!  dale.tharp@gmail.com  /  620 332 4932  thanks for all the info guys. 

 

Hi Dale, 

 

I'm collecting data for the Dodge Brothers Club and would appreciate any info you're willing to share.

Here are a couple of photos that will show you where to look for details on your truck so we can add your info to the data base.

 

We need the wheelbase, frame number and the engine number.

If your floorboards are intact you may have a small metal tag on the passenger side toe board that has some of the data.

If you can provide anything from the tag it would be helpful as well. 

 

Also, if you haven't sent away for your build card I always recommend any GB/DB truck owners send away for one.

I can walk you through that process if needed. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions

Regards,
Dave

 

[Jack Bennett]

On 2/24/2019 at 5:36 AM, harvest said:

found this tool in my friends garage and I have no idea what it could have been used for.  Up on his property he has an old dodge truck in pieces I think a 1926-27 model?  it has the solid rear wheels.  anyway, I was thinking this tool might be for that truck?  would anyone perhaps know exactly what tool I have here and maybe its not even for a dodge truck?   Only marking on this puller is "1930" and I believe its for a 2 & 15/16 or 3" hub.   my thread gauge reads 16 threads per inch.  appreciate your shared knowledge and thoughts on this tool. thanks

I can see this is a old post, and this gizmo has probably passed through Hershey a few times since then.

But, this tool seems to be what I need to salvage a otherwise very expensive, and possibly the last procedure I botch in the attempt to reanimate my 1929 Fargo Express panel truck.

I have spent over two hundred dollars thus far on pullers and useless spanner nuts in the attempt to remove the rear hubs from the truck.

I have succeeded in stripping the threads from the hub of the left rear (wooden spoked) wheel during the failed attempt to find a nut or spanner large enough, and of the proper thread count, to screw on the hub.

These pullers come in a wide variety of sizes and threads, and none but the one intended for use with the specific vehicle will work. And the hub is inaccessible from the rear, has no studs or bolt holes to be used  with an arm style puller, and seems to be made of that rare material called unobtainium.

Momentarily my goals of renewing the braking system on the truck are put on hold until such time I can hope to pull the hubs without irreparable damage.

It appears that this puller, being so near the 3” size, as compared to the 2 5/8 and other odd sizes which simply strips off the threads and does nothing toward removing the hub, is the one I need to work on the 1929 Fargo Express 1/2 ton panel delivery.

I know there is a place on the AACA forum to look for parts and tools, and I also realize I am not supposed to use this thread to obtain these parts or tools.

But, this is a idle post, nearly five years old, and this puller seems to be intended for use with the Dodge trucks.

The Fargo was made by the DeSoto plant in Canada, and sold for export only, but seems to be constructed of Dodge Brothers parts, and the size of this puller is comes nearer to fitting it than any other puller I can find.

That said, if you still have this puller, and are willing to sell it, I am most certainly interested in buying it.

Or, if you no longer have this particular tool, or are unwilling to sell it, can you help me find someone who may have one like it?

Jack

 

Edited May 11 by Jack Bennett (see edit history)

[ArticiferTom]

Will gladly loan you mine . Once you get free should remove easier with plain puller . i have one of Geoge Mcmurtry,s  2 2/8 x 16tpi is modern clampable type .

[harvest]

19 hours ago, Jack Bennett said:

sorry i dont have the puller anymore. good luck with your project. I can see this is a old post, and this gizmo has probably passed through Hershey a few times since then.

But, this tool seems to be what I need to salvage a otherwise very expensive, and possibly the last procedure I botch in the attempt to reanimate my 1929 Fargo Express panel truck.

I have spent over two hundred dollars thus far on pullers and useless spanner nuts in the attempt to remove the rear hubs from the truck.

I have succeeded in stripping the threads from the hub of the left rear (wooden spoked) wheel during the failed attempt to find a nut or spanner large enough, and of the proper thread count, to screw on the hub.

These pullers come in a wide variety of sizes and threads, and none but the one intended for use with the specific vehicle will work. And the hub is inaccessible from the rear, has no studs or bolt holes to be used  with an arm style puller, and seems to be made of that rare material called unobtainium.

Momentarily my goals of renewing the braking system on the truck are put on hold until such time I can hope to pull the hubs without irreparable damage.

It appears that this puller, being so near the 3” size, as compared to the 2 5/8 and other odd sizes which simply strips off the threads and does nothing toward removing the hub, is the one I need to work on the 1929 Fargo Express 1/2 ton panel delivery.

I know there is a place on the AACA forum to look for parts and tools, and I also realize I am not supposed to use this thread to obtain these parts or tools.

But, this is a idle post, nearly five years old, and this puller seems to be intended for use with the Dodge trucks.

The Fargo was made by the DeSoto plant in Canada, and sold for export only, but seems to be constructed of Dodge Brothers parts, and the size of this puller is comes nearer to fitting it than any other puller I can find.

That said, if you still have this puller, and are willing to sell it, I am most certainly interested in buying it.

Or, if you no longer have this particular tool, or are unwilling to sell it, can you help me find someone who may have one like it?

Jack

 

 

[Jack Bennett]

19 hours ago, ArticiferTom said:

Will gladly loan you mine . Once you get free should remove easier with plain puller . i have one of Geoge Mcmurtry,s  2 2/8 x 16tpi is modern clampable type .

Hi Tom. Thanks for the offer of the use of your puller. I will decline though since this is something I have to deal with, and, as a friend said…….”You have no need to worry yourself over this rear end of an old truck”. “If all else fails, just buy another rear end”.

Of course I won’t do that because I will eventually get the hubs off, or destroy the part in the process.

Jack

[Jack Bennett]

On 2/24/2019 at 5:36 AM, harvest said:

found this tool in my friends garage and I have no idea what it could have been used for.  Up on his property he has an old dodge truck in pieces I think a 1926-27 model?  it has the solid rear wheels.  anyway, I was thinking this tool might be for that truck?  would anyone perhaps know exactly what tool I have here and maybe its not even for a dodge truck?   Only marking on this puller is "1930" and I believe its for a 2 & 15/16 or 3" hub.   my thread gauge reads 16 threads per inch.  appreciate your shared knowledge and thoughts on this tool. thanks

I have looked for one of these, with the 2 5/16 - 3” opening, and they seem to be non existent. If you still have any relationship with this particular puller, or know of someone who has one, I will give you my portion of a Kings ransom.

Jack

[Jack Bennett]

6 hours ago, Jack Bennett said:

I have looked for one of these, with the 2 5/16 - 3” opening, and they seem to be non existent. If you still have any relationship with this particular puller, or know of someone who has one, I will give you my portion of a Kings ransom.

Jack

I reread my post and see that I made an error in stating the size of the pullers maw as being 2 5/16” when I should have said 2 15/16” to 3”.

Jack

[Mark Shaw]

On 5/13/2024 at 6:13 PM, Jack Bennett said:

I reread my post and see that I made an error in stating the size of the pullers maw as being 2 5/16” when I should have said 2 15/16” to 3”.

Jack

So Jack, I sent you photos of the puller I have and asked for your address so I can mail it to you.  Do you want to use it and return it or just buy it?

Mark Shaw

Vancouver, WA USA

 

[Jack Bennett]

6 hours ago, Mark Shaw said:

So Jack, I sent you photos of the puller I have and asked for your address so I can mail it to you.  Do you want to use it and return it or just buy it?

Mark Shaw

Vancouver, WA USA

 

Hi Mark. I am all goofed up, and the 2nd set of measurements I gave is wrong also.

Even as a octogenarian I am still learning some weird things about these old vehicles, and I chose the Fargo as a project because I thought it held many secrets the Model T’s, A’s and old Chevys don’t.

It appears that the hub is tapered……I said “appears” because I’ve done the brakes on my old dodge, the Willys and the Plymouth with no problem getting the rear hubs off with a regular puller.

I suppose the outer thread diameter is 2 and 7/16” and the inner threads is 2 and 9/16 and the thread count appears to be 16 TPI.

I haven’t seen your photos of the puller and this is the first I have heard about you having a puller you’re willing to rent or sell.

If your puller is of the measurements I have listed above and you are willing to rent or sell it, I will PM you my address and we can talk.

Regardless, I do appreciate your interest and response……..thanks!

Jack

[30DodgePanel]

On 5/20/2024 at 8:55 PM, Jack Bennett said:

Hi Mark. I am all goofed up, and the 2nd set of measurements I gave is wrong also.

Even as a octogenarian I am still learning some weird things about these old vehicles, and I chose the Fargo as a project because I thought it held many secrets the Model T’s, A’s and old Chevys don’t.

It appears that the hub is tapered……I said “appears” because I’ve done the brakes on my old dodge, the Willys and the Plymouth with no problem getting the rear hubs off with a regular puller.

I suppose the outer thread diameter is 2 and 7/16” and the inner threads is 2 and 9/16 and the thread count appears to be 16 TPI.

I haven’t seen your photos of the puller and this is the first I have heard about you having a puller you’re willing to rent or sell.

If your puller is of the measurements I have listed above and you are willing to rent or sell it, I will PM you my address and we can talk.

Regardless, I do appreciate your interest and response……..thanks!

Jack

This is for 3/4 ton Clippers. It will fit your truck

 

Vintage Antique Original Wheel Hub Bearing Puller Model T or A Other 2 1/2" ID | eBay

[ArticiferTom]

He must first use a clamp-able type as threads are buggered .

[30DodgePanel]

Not even going to ask....

[Jack Bennett]

22 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said:

Not even going to ask....

Thanks………

The first photo was taken when I was a feisty twenty-one year old, high on the steroids of life.

The second photo was taken today of my life at nearly eighty years old.

Today is a time set aside to remember those who made it possible for me to reach this milestone…….but were unable to accompany me during much of the journey.

Jack

[Jack Bennett]

22 hours ago, ArticiferTom said:

He must first use a clamp-able type as threads are buggered .

Hi Tom.

Probably, tomorrow I will make a trip to Milton to pick up an acetylene cutting torch rig I’ve been considering buying since shortly after buying the Fargo.

There is nothing I would rather do, now that I am retired and spending bucks, rather than frantically chasing them, is to talk to others who share the hobby of antique machine appreciation.

Along the Washington coast, among the fishing population, there is a saying “either fish or cut bait” which applies to many other facets of our lives.

Often it is impossible to “fish”, so we “cut bait” in anticipation of fair weather, calm seas and willing fish. It is during these slack times we really learn to fish, and we do it by taking time to get to know those folks we have chosen to spend time with as “friends”.

There are times though that “cutting bait” simply isn’t possible, and “fishing” means to safely remove yourself from the uncooperative fish situation by running as quickly as possible from the beach…….before the tsunami hits.

In this case I am wondering how many recycle cans of debris from the truck it will take to reclaim my beach.