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No I'm not talking about the defunct Coney Island attraction... I'm talking about asking price vs. realized price.

 

In my search for a touring car from the 20's in the last two months I've run into this type of thing a lot: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Willys-/282930554750?hash=item41dff9a77e%3Ag%3AhR4AAOSw7-palgdM&vxp=mtr&nma=true&si=VFTH%2F%2FvQ3kR%2B7p7e4W%2FyEQXEpGk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

$39,000.... not if people don't want to pay it. At any time in the history of the antique car hobby was this a $39,000 car? 

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A nice enough car but yes $39,000.00 sounds very optimistic. I have seen several as nice in the late teens era sell for around $25,000.00.  6 Cyl. Buicks are great cars and they are usually in the $20-$25,000.00 range, the 4's several thousand less. It is a remarkably original car. However with that in mind the price still seems unrealistic . It's a free country, a person can ask whatever they please. Getting a sale however is quite another thing.

 

Greg in Canada

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My impression of car corrals and cars for sale:

It used to be, at Hershey, that cars were marked

10% to 20% above what the seller really expected to get.

There were vastly overpriced cars, but they were the exception.

 

Nowadays, looking at prices, I see asking prices

50% to 100% above realistic values.  Sometimes even more.

Those asking prices have reached the point of irrelevance.

Such optimism (or avarice), I think harms our hobby,

because the newcomer, possibly interested and investigating

the market, sees prices that he may not be able to afford.

 

"Affordable fun" is what I constantly point out to people

who show interest.

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3 hours ago, Lahti35 said:

$39,000.... not if people don't want to pay it. At any time in the history of the antique car hobby was this a $39,000 car? 

 

Actually, he's asking $40,000.

He marked it at $39,995 so you get $5 change

and get the false impression that it's cheaper than $40,000.

 

Do you think the advertised 1916 Willys is a $10,000 to $15,000 car? 

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21 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said:

 

Actually, he's asking $40,000.

He marked it at $39,995 so you get $5 change

and get the false impression that it's cheaper than $40,000.

 

Do you think the advertised 1916 Willys is a $10,000 to $15,000 car? 

No , but this era of "middle class" car is typically $20,000.00 - $25,000.00 in my experience. And probably not fast sellers even at that price.

 

Greg

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51 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said:

 

Actually, he's asking $40,000.

He marked it at $39,995 so you get $5 change

and get the false impression that it's cheaper than $40,000.

 

Do you think the advertised 1916 Willys is a $10,000 to $15,000 car? 

I don't think it would be that low.... but I do know on May 2, 2018 when it ended the second time he couldn't find a bidder at 14,000.

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1 hour ago, Lahti35 said:

I don't think it would be that low.... but I do know on May 2, 2018 when it ended the second time he couldn't find a bidder at 14,000.

 

If it was listed with “reserve not met” and had no bids at $14k it tells me that it should be that low...

 

I would have thought it would have more interest than 5 different bidders ending at $7100 but there you have it

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3 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:

He marked it at $39,995 so you get $5 change

 

Where I come from that means it has 95,000 miles on it, makes the salesman look smarter when he points to a car from the showroom window.

 

I tried out a car one time and as I drove off the lot I noticed it was a 990 something and ready to roll over. It had some odd number on the windshield like $18, 036. I said "You are going to have to raise this car a buck when we get back. He just smiled. That's a hundred bucks to a car salesman, just a marker.

 

I walked into a Buick dealer showroom around 1977 and asked for the price on this car:

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Fifty bucks. So I am doing the paperwork in the office and hanging on the wall is the newspaper page with "This Week's Specials" The car was listed for $49.95!

I asked him what kind of shenanigans was going on there! I don't forget stuff like that.

Bernie

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