Mystery Studebaker?

[nzcarnerd]

This pic is on Shorpy   -   http://www.shorpy.com/node/21062   - but I don't think it is a Studebaker. I know the pre 1913 era of Studebaker history is a bit murky but this car is definitely pre 1913. I looked at EMFs and they are very similar but this car has a straight front axle. I guess by 1923 it could have been replaced.

[Bloo]

I think it just about has to be EMF. Studebaker cars before 1913 were generally sales partnerships of other brands, notably Garford and EMF for gasoline powered cars. It doesnt look much like a Garford. 1909 EMF?

 

Edited December 30, 2017 by Bloo (see edit history)

[nzcarnerd]

3 minutes ago, Bloo said:

I think it just about has to be EMF. Studebaker cars before 1913 were generally sales partnerships of other brands, notably Garford and EMF for gasoline powered cars. It doesnt look much like a Garford. 1909 EMF?

 

Ah, I see that one has a straight axle so yes, it is fairly certain. That era when they put the licence plates on the radiator top tanks makes identification difficult at times. I think the straight front axle makes it quite early - maybe even 1908.

[nzcarnerd]

Did I post this one I found?  Purports to be 1908 - supposedly at the time of the NY-Paris race - which was very early 1908. The car - the closest one I presume - is supposed to be a Garford/Studebaker but I can't find a match. The other one further over could be an early EMF. Maybe the close car is some sort of prototype.

[pont35cpe]

May be a Californian named Studebaker trying to get votes..

[Dave Mellor NJ]

The script says "Stockton"

[Bloo]

So it does. Good catch! I wonder if such a car existed? It sure looks like an EMF to me...

[Spinneyhill]

14 hours ago, Dave Mellor NJ said:

The script says "Stockton"

Where? That on the radiator of the near car is the Studebaker script of the time.

[keiser31]

23 minutes ago, Spinneyhill said:

Where? That on the radiator of the near car is the Studebaker script of the time.

On the radiator of the original car in question it says, "Stockton".

[Spinneyhill]

3 minutes ago, keiser31 said:

On the radiator of the original car in question it says, "Stockton".

Oh, I didn't look at that one! I was looking at the two cars in the mud. Of course it does.

[Guest]

On 12/30/2017 at 12:24 PM, pont35cpe said:

May be a Californian named Studebaker trying to get votes..

This sounds like a logical explanation.

The plate is from 1923.

Edited January 1, 2018 by GregLaR (see edit history)

[Spinneyhill]

If that car is 10+ years old it is in amazing condition, knowing the conditions on the roads back then and how things were tied on because of a lack of luggage space. Maybe it was a town-only car.