kisselman27 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Merry Christmas all, I purchased this front axle a few years ago to get the Buffalo wire wheel hubs which I needed for another project. The axle looks like it dates from the late teens through to the early 1920s. (no front brakes) The thing that makes this axle a little different from most axles of this era is the single U Bolt on each side that goes though the centre of the axle. Spring leaves are 2 inches wide. Does anyone have any ideas on make and model ? Thanks in advance Cheers John Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 What size and type Buffalo hubs are they? Look like might be MS 4 1/2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisselman27 Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 The numbers/letters for the Left side hub are : LS HC4 30444 Do the #4 1/2 hubs take the same #4 buffalo jelly mould wheel ? Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Is the axle the same size as a Model T Ford or smaller? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 EMF had the same spring to axle arrangement and probably that continued when they were folded into Studebaker. My Buffalo catalogs show HC4 wire wheels for Studebaker Light or Standard 6 ( 2 wheel brakes) for 1925-1927. That would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Layden, I think you nailed it. Below are photos of the axle on my 1910 EMF. I tried to take photos from the same view... I rotated them so they are upside down. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Similar, but not quite. The OP doesn't have the expanded bolt conduit showing on the face of the web. Possibly the OP has the same parentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Spinneyhill said: Similar, but not quite. The OP doesn't have the expanded bolt conduit showing on the face of the web. Possibly the OP has the same parentage? Also the fact that the EMF has a dip in the center of the axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisselman27 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Thankyou for all the interest and help. I was sure that someone on the forum would recognize that U/bolt setup. The axle is a little bit heavier than the Model t axle and would be a good match up for the Studebaker light 6. I purchased a Kissel some years ago in New Zealand and this axle was part of that deal. I always wondered what make and model the axle was originally attached to. I really enjoyed the upside down photos from Oldford. Thanks again Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 It is only a day. Wait a while for the masses to return from holidays etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 By the way... The "jelly mould wheel" type drive was called corrugated by the factory. Think corrugated boxes, the wavy sheet of paper glued between two flat sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisselman27 Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 That makes perfect sense to me. Much of the roofing on houses here in Queensland is corrugated iron. Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Guess it is too large for a Kelsey Motorette, they used the single U bolt as well. The EMF axle oldford posted is older with the one piece spindle/steering arm. Bob Edited December 28, 2016 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisselman27 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Bob, I took a couple of measurements this morning which should give you an indication of the size of this axle. Centre of king pin to centre of king pin = 52.5 inches. Centre of spring to centre of spring = 28.5 inches. Springs are 2 inches wide. Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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