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1923 Kissel Model 6-55. Cheers John

I thought I would add my two cents worth to the discussion on this Kissel picture. This is an early 1926 Model 8-75 Standard Speedster. This is a pre “Cushioned in Rubber” car and has the normal bolt spring shackles. The pre “Cushioned in Rubber” 8-75 speedsters had a shorter wheelbase than the later 8-75 cars. The number of hood louvers and the three hood hold down latches each side are feature found only on the model 8-75. The lack of an outside door handle and the shape of the side light make the car in the photograph 1926 or later. The size of the wheels and the shape of the wheel spokes make this speedster an early 1926 model. The shape of wooden spokes changed with the “Cushioned in Rubber” cars. This car would not have had Ryan Lite headlights as original equipment when it was new. The Model 19 Ryan Lite headlights were not standard equipment on Kissel speedsters until 1927. And were standard equipment on all 1928 Kissel cars. Ryan Lite headlights and side have been added to quite a few Kissel speedsters as part of the restoration process. Cheers John Lewis

Bob, I took a couple of measurements this morning which should give you an indication of the size of this axle. Centre of king pin to centre of king pin = 52.5 inches. Centre of spring to centre of spring = 28.5 inches. Springs are 2 inches wide. Cheers John

That makes perfect sense to me. Much of the roofing on houses here in Queensland is corrugated iron. Cheers John

Thankyou for all the interest and help. I was sure that someone on the forum would recognize that U/bolt setup. The axle is a little bit heavier than the Model t axle and would be a good match up for the Studebaker light 6. I purchased a Kissel some years ago in New Zealand and this axle was part of that deal. I always wondered what make and model the axle was originally attached to. I really enjoyed the upside down photos from Oldford. Thanks again Cheers John

The numbers/letters for the Left side hub are : LS HC4 30444 Do the #4 1/2 hubs take the same #4 buffalo jelly mould wheel ? Cheers John

Merry Christmas all, I purchased this front axle a few years ago to get the Buffalo wire wheel hubs which I needed for another project. The axle looks like it dates from the late teens through to the early 1920s. (no front brakes) The thing that makes this axle a little different from most axles of this era is the single U Bolt on each side that goes though the centre of the axle. Spring leaves are 2 inches wide. Does anyone have any ideas on make and model ? Thanks in advance Cheers John Lewis

I am still on my quest to find a water pump and generator bracket for my Kissel. Want to Buy - 1925-1928 Kissel model 6-55 Water Pump and Generator bracket.The Kissel Model 6-55 was the last of the Kissel built engines and is very different to the Lycoming based engines used in some of the Kissel models. Both the Water Pump and the Generator bolt to the right side of the engine block as viewed from the driver’s seat and are driven from the timing case. The order is from the timing case – Water pump, Generator and then the Distributor driven from the back of the Generator through a worm drive. I have attached a couple of photos to help with identification. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated. Cheers John Quote Edit

I am still on my quest to find a water pump and generator bracket for my Kissel. Want to Buy - 1925-1928 Kissel model 6-55 Water Pump and Generator bracket.The Kissel Model 6-55 was the last of the Kissel built engines and is very different to the Lycoming bases engines used in some of the Kissel models.<o:p></o Both the Water Pump and the Generator bolt to the right side of the engine block as viewed from the driver’s seat and are driven from the timing case. The order is from the timing case – Water pump, Generator and then the Distributor driven from the back of the Generator through a worm drive.<o:p></o I have attached a couple of photos to help with identification.<o:p></o Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated.<o:p></o Cheers<o:p></o John >

Thank you the information on the mascot. It is another interesting one for my collection. Cheers John

<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I was given this brass mascot recently and maybe someone from the forum can identify it for me.<o:p></o:p> The bulls head is heavy and I believe made of chrome plated brass. The horns are made of what looks like an early plastic. The horns are held in place by a pin or grub screw and I believe they can be adjusted to different positions. It has two large mounting screws on the bottom of the mascot.<o:p></o:p> My guess is that it is an accessory and not from a specific car. <o:p></o:p> It is about six and a quarter inches Long, one and three quarters of an inch at its widest wide and the plastic horns tip to tip measure six inches. <o:p></o:p> Cheers<o:p></o:p> John<o:p></o:p>

Ron, Congratulations on a super find. The car looks to be in very original condition and almost too good to restore. All Kissel speedsters were deluxe models up until 1925 when the Standard speedster was offered as an option in both 6 and 8 Cylinder models. The B5 Buffalo wheels on the front of this speedster were used by Kissel on some of their 1927 Deluxe models cars with Timkin axles. The Buffalo wheels used from 1923 through 1926 were what I call the Jelly mould style and these were introduced with the new 1923 Model 6-55. The 1923 Model 6-45 models continued to use the HOUK style wheels until the end of production. In 1928 Kissel changed from Buffalo to Dayton wire wheels which continued through to the end of production in 1931. I look forward to reading the progress reports on the restoration. Cheers John L

Perry,<o:p></o:p> Mr. Ron Hausmann is the man to whom you refer. I know Ron well through the Kissel Kar club. <o:p></o:p> My name is John Lewis and I live in Queensland, Australia. I have been addicted to Kissel cars for many years and over time have been fortunate enough to become a Kissel owner.<o:p></o:p> Kissels were sold in Australia between 1924 and 1928. My research confirms that eight vehicles were imported into Rockhampton, Queensland ,(including two truck/Bus chassis) and four cars through agents in Sydney , New South Wales. These vehicles included three Speedsters, 1924 6-55, 1927 6-55 standard and 1928 6-55 deluxe. To my knowledge the 1928 speedster is the only Kissel model 6-55 vehicle known to survive from that year. All kissel cars imported into Australia during the 1920s were factory RHD and I believe them to be unique among surviving Kissels from the 1920’s.<o:p></o:p> Today there are six Kissel cars known to survive in Australia (in varying states of repair). Two of theses cars are recent imports and both LHD. <o:p></o:p> Some of the other Kissels imported into Australia during the 1920’s included a 1926 6-55 AYRC Coupe, 1927 6-55 Deluxe sedan, 1928 6-70 touring car, and 1928 6-70 sedan. (All these cars came in through Rockhampton.)<o:p></o:p> Cheers<o:p></o:p> John<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>

<o:p></o> <o:p></o> Want to Buy - 1925-1928 Kissel model 6-55 Water Pump and Generator bracket.The Kissel Model 6-55 was the last of the Kissel built engines and is very different to the Lycoming bases engines used in some of the Kissel models.<o:p></o> Both the Water Pump and the Generator bolt to the right side of the engine block as viewed from the driver’s seat and are driven from the timing case. The order is from the timing case – Water pump, Generator and then the Distributor driven from the back of the Generator through a worm drive.<o:p></o> I have attached a couple of photos to help with identification.<o:p></o> Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated.<o:p></o> Cheers<o:p></o> John > <o:p></o> <o:p></o>