Guest Rivdog Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Does anyone know how to get at the rear windows in a 65? Mine won't roll up tight. I tried pulling it but it won't budge any more. It works from the local switch - goes up and down fine but doesn't meetup tight with the top molding (see picture). I didn't see any screws to gain access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Curran Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 You first must take the rear seat bottom out. The armrest has the 2 screws that are visible in the front and then there are brackets that hold them to the floor. They will be visible when you take the seat out. Be careful when you disconnect the window switch as they become brittle with age. Once you remove the armrest you will see a metal access panel with a few bolts holding it to the car. Once removed you will have access to the mechanism. The upper portion above the armrest can sometimes be left in place while you do this but if you need to remove this as well you will have to remove the screws and push up on this piece to remove it. Hopefully you may just need to adjust the regulator and by all means, lubricate the entire mechanism while you have it apart. You really should invest in a shop manual for this car. They are readily available from most auto book organizations. I may have an extra one in my collection and I can check this weekend if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) You first must take the rear seat bottom out. The armrest has the 2 screws that are visible in the front and then there are brackets that hold them to the floor. They will be visible when you take the seat out. Be careful when you disconnect the window switch as they become brittle with age. Once you remove the armrest you will see a metal access panel with a few bolts holding it to the car. Once removed you will have access to the mechanism. The upper portion above the armrest can sometimes be left in place while you do this but if you need to remove this as well you will have to remove the screws and push up on this piece to remove it. Hopefully you may just need to adjust the regulator and by all means, lubricate the entire mechanism while you have it apart. You really should invest in a shop manual for this car. They are readily available from most auto book organizations. I may have an extra one in my collection and I can check this weekend if you are interested. Best advice I've seen yet. X2. Ditto. Just do it. What more could anyone want. I live and die by my chassis manuals. Ed PS: As long as you're purchasing a chassis manual, you might as well get a body manual too. Edited September 28, 2015 by RivNut (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alini Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I got the full set for all three of my cars off Ebay the 2011 Camaro is 7 books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Shop Manuals and Chassis Manuals are the "Bible" for your car, and contain a wealth of information.They are also available in CD format for a computer - you can print 'hard copy' as required, for reference material. Manuals should be the first purchase after obtaining a vintage vehicle, it's the best investment you can make ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenugent Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Body manual has info you need.Get both as stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rivdog Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Pat (and all) Thanks so much for the detailed explanation. We are expecting 5 days of rain here in Southern NH so it will be a good time to tackle this project. I have ordered both the shop and chassis manuals last week off eBay but they are coming media mail and haven't arrived yet. Once I get it apart I might have further questions that I will post here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 In '68 there were adjustable 'stops' that limit the travel of the rear quarter glass in either the Up or Down position.Your '65 may have a similar setup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Curran Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I forgot to mention in my original response to be careful when removing the seat bottom. I have had the seat frame catch the vinyl on the arm rest and rip it. Same thing when re-installing the seat bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rivdog Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Thanks. Is the seat similar to other GM rear bench seats where you knee into the bottom to push it off the bracket and then lift up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdminc Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Rivdog it is the same as other GM seat bottoms. In the RIviera it is s bit trickier because the middle bridge between the rear bucket seat bottoms hold both seat bottoms together. Not sure how the rear armrest works, mine does not have one. Rock On gord Edited September 29, 2015 by msdminc (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Curran Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 As stated by Gord, it is the same as other GM cars of the era. It is a little on the flimsy side because of the bucket style seats in the rear so be sure to support it evenly when taking it out of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Whether your car is equipped with an armrest or not, you'll want to be sure and take out the spacer below the speaker panel before trying to remove the seats. The armrest, if so equipped, is screwed to the bottom seat frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Speaking from experience - Be careful pulling up on the glass. The sealant holding the glass into the lower frame is old and dry and can easily separate if you pull too hard. Not that I have ever done such a thing.... =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rivdog Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thanks to everyone. I've yet to tackle this but it's on my list for this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufcar Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Rivdog. I found that once you have access you can use a Flux brush and and some lithium grease you can reach and fell your way into all the tracks and then by moving the window up and down you can oil the rollers. With the new grease and oil and moving the window up and down this should greatly improve the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewatersky Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 great advice - funny - mine has always been a bit slow I've thought I should tackle it one day but haven't got around to it...thanks guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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