Guest camerabag Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hello,I'm wondering if anyone knows what make of car this is. Here is the link to a photo on flickr. I would really appreciate it if someone could spare the time to take a look. I don't recognise the badge on the front at all and have looked through lots of sites to try and ID it.Loch Vaa Abandoned Car | Flickr - Photo Sharing!I didn't take the photo - the person who took it would like to know what the car is as well. The photo was taken near Loch Vaa in Scotland in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's a 1937 DeSoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) NOT 1937 DeSoto. Wrong everything. Looks European to me with those blended in headlamps. Edited November 5, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The shield type badge made me think it was a DeSoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 On better scrutiny of the photo it's actually an Opel Oympia. My bad.It would make more sense that an old European car would be found in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest camerabag Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 looks like it's my fault for assuming it was American! Thanks for the detective work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 No fault on your part. You didn't utter a word about it's origin. It was just an error on my part since it had LHD and I made a quick assumption it was North American. It does bear a slight resemblance to a DeSoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest camerabag Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 My Dad owned a series of imported cars in the fifties, including a 1936 Hudson Terraplane and a 1938 Hudson Sedan. I think they must have been Canadian rather than American though as they were right hand drive. Anyway, that's why I didn't think it odd that an American, or Canadian, car would be in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willys77 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Canadian cars were "exported" to other Commonwealth Countries generally speaking rather than United States produced ones. Due to duty and taxes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest camerabag Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Ah, that makes sense.The photographer is very pleased to have had his car ID'd btw, thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oracle Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 1938 Model Olympia Oly38...imported through Southampton Docks 7 miles away by General Motors Ltd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest camerabag Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Talking of imports, this is a photo of one of the cars we had, circa 1957. Not sure what this one is.Dad's Pride and Joy | Flickr - Photo Sharing! Edited November 7, 2011 by camerabag deleted extra 'this' (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Looks like a '39 Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Looks like a '39 Ford.Helen Keller wouldn't confuse that car with a 39 Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest camerabag Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Apologies, I've just realised I should have started a new thread for a different vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Talking of imports, this is a photo of one of the cars we had, circa 1957. Not sure what this one is.Dad's Pride and Joy | Flickr - Photo Sharing!Yep....'39 Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Helen Keller wouldn't confuse that car with a 39 FordSo what do you think it is eagle eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prs519 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I think it is 1940 Ford standard, due to 39 had teardrop shaped headlights.Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I think it is 1940 Ford standard, due to 39 had teardrop shaped headlights.PerryThose look like aftermarket sealed beam conversions on a '39 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Those look like aftermarket sealed beam conversions on a '39 to me.Precisely. My thoughts exactly.Thanks John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidAU Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Definately 1940 standard Ford. The 39 had the wipers above the windscreen, not on the cowl and the 39 has a chrome surround around the windscreen as it is hinged to open at the bottom. The 1940 models all have fixed windsreens and only a chrome strip in the centre. It also has quarter vent windows in the doors which were first fitted in 1940The hood mouldings are quite different on a 39 with a chrome cover strip which hides the gap between the hood and the grille.The only things on the car that are 1939 Deluxe are the grille and the bumper overriders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Mmmmmm....oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Very observant David. I slipped up on the similarities between the two years. I doubt Helen Keller would have picked up on the subtle differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 So what do you think it is eagle eyes?Didn't notice that the thread had been hijacked. It's quite easy for me to say, "Yes, it is a 40 Standard.", after the fact, However, since I owned a 40 DeLuxe when I was a kid, it's an easy one for me. As stated, the wipers are the giveaway, except on open cars where both 39 and 40 had them in the cowl. The 39s also still had the opening windshield, which the pictured car doesn't have. The headlight doors seem to be missing. They and the grille were painted on the American cars with a chrome trim down the center of the grille. This car is evidently an export version. Eagle eyed enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 OK you got me there. I was thinking you were saying I was totally off on the car. You have to admit that's not a bad stab at ID-ing the car for someone who's never owned one. I'm not even a Ford expert and I didn't even do a search on the net.Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Those fenders had to be 39 or they wouldn't have had to add the parking lights when they converted to sealed beams although they might have used old stock up on export models. I also think the hubcaps might be 39s. Back to the Opels, this picture of wet sanding '50 models was on The Old Motor | Old car photos today. They didn't change much from '38. Note the convertible sedanWorkers at the Opel plant in Russelsheim, Germany, are seen in this photo taken during 1950, wet sanding body shells in primer for finish paint prep. The brushes the workers are holding are equipped with a water hose for an adequate flow of water which is necessary in good wet sanding operations. Photo courtesy of Carhubnews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidAU Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 They and the grille were painted on the American cars with a chrome trim down the center of the grille. This car is evidently an export version. Eagle eyed enough for you? __________________This is a 39 grille with stainless cover strips not a cast 40 with the chrome centre section. The Ford export cars at that time were all the same as the same as the American models apart from right hand drive and different upholstery.The 39 Deluxe and all 40 models have exactly the same fenders. There was a change very early in the 39 production run where the concave shape in the front of the fenders was altered slightly but you have to put the two types of fenders side by side to be able to pick the difference and it is not unknown to see a car with one of each type on it.It looks like the car in the photo has some different type of light like a 36 Ford or Chevy ect. complete with the shell shoved in the existing bucket and fixed there as it is sitting too high and too far out and therefore the the original surrond and parklite wont fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I know the fenders were the same on both years. I'm saying this car was first equipped with the bulb behind glass lights as in the 39, that's why he needed to cut the parking lights into the fenders. If it had the 40 headlights none of that would have been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oracle Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 If that's a '40 then it's probably an ex-military C01A, Canadian-sourced, that someone has updated post-war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oracle Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 The Olympia is a Olympia '50 Cabrio-Limousine, built only in 1950-51 with a different grille from the Olympia '47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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