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Here is additional explanation on early Locomobile engine oiling technology. On the early cars, my 1909 included, the original oiling system was by a mechanical oiler/dripper unit. This system did just what AHa above suggested. It just delivered a predetermined amount of oil to each lubrication places on the engine. In order to verify that the oilerwas "working" a visual site glass was on the dash that allowed the driver verify that the driver could simply see oil flow and thus proper oiler function. Slightly later, Locomobile began using a low pressure oil pump and a gauge like the one I now have to monitor the "oil pressure". I am guessing that the early Locomobile oil pump system would develop maybe 5 PSI at best. Al

Hello Al, I will give brassauto.com a try and see what they offer. Thanks for the reference. Al

I am looking for your loose Locomobile script gauges, either black face or silver. What have you got that is not intended for a car. Al

Does anyone know for sure that each line of demarcation, on the above gauge, represents one pound of oil pressure? Al

Does anyone know who casts up the brass passenger footrests as shown on the above Simplex speed car? Al

Kean, If you are not successful at locating the proper 25" Firestone rims, you may consider buying 26". These could be cut to fit and re-rolled/tig welded to fit the proper circumference and become 25" to fit your wheels. Al

Mike, I am glad that you have cleared out the breathing issue and are feeling better. It must be rewarding to spend good time in the shop! Al

As always, Joe, you are not only doing some brass work but this little project shows for everyone to see, (and it does look very suitable)! Al

Hello Joe, I have been away for a week or so so I have not been active posting. Thanks for looking at your spare tire bracket. The type brackets that I need are one or two lower brackets and likely two upper adjustable brackets. I hope what you have will be workable for me. Regards, Al

I am just joining this discussion on the early screen side units. I am also involved with the rebuilding of a sorry but true screen side. Mine, is a late 1922-23 however. Any pointers as to what I should look for as I go through the process to build this unit of mine (I do not want to hijack this thread)? Al

Here is a picture of a 1914 and newer black face Locomobile oil pressure gauge. Ebay is good for something once in a while! I may have a use for this gauge in the future. Al

Here is a picture of a "new" ebay purchase. It is a 1913 and newer oil pressure gauge in a brass case. It will find a use!!! Al

Hello Larry, How do these side mount brackets mount/orient to your Buick. Do you have a picture of these mounted? Al

I thought I would post a couple of pictures of an American-LaFrance cast aluminum firewall, (that is a duplicate of an original that I had cast to go on an original 1913 American-LaFrance hose car). Yes, I am building an original early (1913) American-LaFrance hose car and with the left over pieces will be building an American-LaFrance speedster. This particular new casting was made with no penetrations in the dash section which will allow me to fit the steering column and gauges where they will work the best for the speedster project. The firewall with the instrument gauge holes will be used on the original 1913 rig. I will also post a picture of an early Simplex speed car. Simplex and early American-LaFrance have a real "kinship". It is an interesting note that not only were the American-LaFrance firewalls cast aluminum, but so were the floor boards and floorboard risers. Notice the top profile shape of the Simplex firewall, it will be easy to reform the top of the cast aluminum firewall to replicate the Simplex profile on the speedster project. The inspiration for the speedster project is the Simplex speed car and a bit of Stutz Bearcat. Al

Hello Gary, Your picture of the new Indy car loosely assembled is sure making the point! What a good job you are doing and that coupled with your eye for detail. Keep up the good work. Al

Hello Al. Thanks for the posting of this early 48. Yes, I did build a place for all 6 cylinders both 48 and 38 to chat. Look under the main heading of "Locomobile". I have a Locomobile Steam, Locomobile 4 cylinder, Locomobile 38 and 48, and Locomobile - Riker trucks gathering places. I also have parts for sale and parts wanted chat forums. It is my hope that from these common chat areas that Locomobile owners can unit, in some form, for our common good and preservation of history, literature and of course our Locomobile automobiles. This is not an attempt to take away from the last of the Locomobiles that came about as a result of the "Billy Durant" era and the Durant Club,, but to give a home and gathering place for the the early Locomobiles. Al

Tim, Thanks for the response. I will check with your source. Al

Al, I agree, it would be good for preservation of the history of as many cars as could be located. That history is one aspect of a Locomobile Society. Another aspect would be compiling information and literature that can be used by those who are still in the restoration process or for future restorations as our beloved Locomobile treasures weather and age. Lastly, no matter how exclusive a particular marque may be, there is strength in numbers, from an ownership perspective. All that would need to happen is a few more dedicated souls stand up and help to make a register happen and develop a computer system to keep track of histories and numbers. If anyone else is reading these posts and has an interest in the Locomobile marque, regardless of the vintage or model, post here on this group of Locomobile forum chat rooms. Speak your thoughts. Al

Hello Al, Your point is well taken. The last known attempt, was done by the group that started the Locomobile Society. That Locomobile list is now obsolete and should have a renewed group of enthusiasts overhaul that Society and put some formality to it. I would even suggest an actual affiliation with like minded Locomobilists. I would suggest a "Specialist" for Steam, a "Specialist" for the early cars up to the release of the 6 cylinder cars, a "Specialist" for the 6 cylinder cars, a "Specialist" for the Durant designed cars and lastly a "Specialist" for the commercial cars and RIker. I know that the Durant club has a "spot" for the later Locomobiles but it does not reach to well to the early Locomobile owners and can't. Any thoughts about developing an updated Roster? Al PS: My term of "Specialist" would likely mean a team or committee

This picture must certainly be of a Model H. Al

Thanks Al for these additional pictures of the Number 7 car. I was wondering what design radiator, flat top more like the Model L and M or rounded top more like the Model H, I (40) and often referred to as the Mercedes style radiator. That same nomenclature is also used aptly on similar vintage Simplex and its near cousin the early American-LaFrance units. The 1913 American- LaFrance original hose car, (modified later to be a city service ladder truck) I have and also the early Speedster project look very similar to the front picture of Old #7 shown above and is very indicative of the kinship with Simplex, (but the dip is tighter). Thanks for posting.... Al

Nice information Layden, I have a very nice DR-4 Bosch magneto. It does look kinds similar, but I missed that this Racer was running make and break for ignition, so I do agree that a "high tension" DR-4 or similar derivative is out for this shown application. Could it be a Robert Bosch version imported from Europe? I am real curious about this chat of "low tension" magnetos as my 1909 Locomobile Model L originally ran on a "make and break" ignition. I should buy one just to display with my automobile, even though I do not have all the bits and pieces to make it run on "make and break". Al

Here is another speedster picture posted by a friend on another forum. This vintage picture is of another Locomobile "built to order" speed car. Look at the size of that motor! Can anyone ID the magneto? I think it is a DR4. This photo gives us plenty of food for thought..... Al

The video clip, of the red Locomobile ,is a very nice car, maybe lots of you know this car. The owner is just as nice as his car, it is nice when our hobby, both cars and owners are great like that! Al

Here is a video of a Locomobile Model L with the cutout open. Enjoy. Al