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Your question seems to have been answered. There were two Lion ornaments with VERY diferent mountings. The "common" style can also be found without it's base as at some point in time Franklin cut the lion from the base, added a cap over the cut-off base and chromed it - some claim it was due to the royalties being too much and the depression taking it's toll on Franklin. I've seen a handfull of the sawed-off Lions at hershey in the past and wondered if it could be added back to a later flat cap.

There are two styles - one for the "Horse-Collar" front cars and a later version for the fake-radiator fronted cars. Which are you asking about?

I know a lot of people disagree, but buying slotted stainless screws and polishing the heads is a fair alternative - look in Marine supply stores for the stainless screws. The finish comes close to nickel. Not perfect, but close.

I'm thinking Jordan going by the emblem, but...

The state may have had a registration plate, but there were towns & cities that had a tax seperate of the state's registration - I've seen similar badges as yours with a 1-horse, 2-horse, etc. designation and think that is what you have - An auto tax tag from South Haven.

Front fendes look wider than normal - may be a "Southern Wide-track" T about 1917 era.

The T is a 1915-16 model. The fold-back windshield and brass radiator with a cowl give this one up...

Closer pictures of the inside & handles might help - the picture comes up so small I can't make out the shape of the beltline.

Leave it to me to reply to the wrong thread. I posted this in the buy-sell forum and tho8ught I'd repeat here... Nice collection! Here are pictures of both my collection of lapel pins, and watch fobs but I do not think I have any duplicates to sell or trade and I only collect US pre-war which might be hard for you to find in the UK. Enjoy the pictures and please share more if you have them including any makers information to tell fakes from genuine items. As for the RCH - if you look on the Fobs picture below there is a script style fob RCH which is the only variation that I'm aware of for that company. I think the tire looks thinner and it may have been a cycle company.

Think it looks like an accessory from the mid 20's car to ilumunate the running board on the drivers side - Studebaker had them as an option or standard on the bigger cars but it does not look right for theirs.

Nice collection! Here are pictures of both my collection of lapel pins, and watch fobs but I do not think I have any duplicates to sell or trade and I only collect US pre-war which might be hard for you to find in the UK. Enjoy the pictures and please share more if you have them.

Good looking & Fun car - the lights are 13-14 and I suspect the engine is much later than 1911 as the SN should be where the timing gear sticks out - the pic is a little blury, but it looks like a casting date of 4-17-14 beside the VIN - which is in the ballpark for the engine number and would match the lights. Car also has a later model NH carb - much more reliable than the earlier ones and easier to get parts for. The downside is that your car is not an 11, but it is just as fun...

G&D made accessory lighting & starting systems for pre 1915 Model T Ford cars - it may be one way the debate regarding "Fork-mounted headlamps" in early 15 started as there are pictures of a prototype couplet sporting these lamps somewhere in the Ford archives. These look like a pair of the replacement side lamps from that accessory kit.

A friend at work looked at a 30 Buick 4-door sedan in super solid shape last spring - I'm pretty sure it is still for sale at $6000 - the headliner had a 6" tear, but other than that it was a little wax and drive-it HPOF car. The market for any sedans in the 20's and 30's seems to have more than died. I'd think $3000 to $3500 for the Chevrolet would be about it even if the lights and visor are there. As for a restoration - you can expect to put another 12-15K into that car - you can buy one with an older restoration in the $7500 range if you take your time and shop around. To answer your question, the roof is a rolled out material usually over a chicken-wire mesh & wood slats - which also hang the headliner once the interior is done.

Rear axle is American Austin too.

The headlamps look like they were cut and made to use 110v lightbulbs - the vacuume pump could be for anything - looks like an accessory from the early 1930's made to clamp to the generator and friction run off the back of the belt.

Our T club was at Wells a few years ago - you can see the poor cutting & welding on the head of the 6-cylinder T and we all felt it to be VERY suspect. As for the 3 headed S engine - it had a history that would be much harder to discount...

I had a 24 EL at one time sold it in 2000 - the parts and service manuals were available thru the Antique Studebaker Club at that time- not sure if they are still in print, but well worth having if you can find them.

Looks like something from the side of an old hit-n-miss cement mixer or some other equipment with a small engine.

Thanks Terry - the last of these I'd seen were at the large fine arts tent in the Chocolate field - Shalenbaum's?? Or one of those dealers. His prices stuck me as steep back then and were in the $1000 range for similar sets. So far I've been told anywhere from $200 to $1500 - all over the map just like you said. I might try e-bay sometime after Hershey but before Christmas although I hate using that site. I seem to have 4 sets now - 2 wicker - the other is a set for 2, one 6-person hard suitcase style, and one 6-person running board set. They look good on display and tour if you dress appropriately, but... Thanks again, Mark

I've gotten back answers from $200 to $1500 so far - one person thinks it could have real silver ware due to the hallmarking, but I'm not sure of that. I'm going to have to do more research before selling as I think it should sell around $1200 or thereabout. Looking at it now, shipping would not be either easy nor cheap. Thanks, Mark

I had this above in the "Automotive Art" area, but there have been no responces so I thought to move it here... Been a lot of years since I've made Hershey to check out the prices in the fine art tents, so I'll try this: Here is an early Wicker Picnic set for 6 with all the accoutrements you could think of. It was sold thru Brooks Brothers in NYC and is marked on the inside as such along with a made in England label. All of the tableware and the tea pot is marked G.W.S.& S. and the knives also have "Sheffield Steel". The can opener is only marked ""Clipper" Best Sheffield Steel" but fits the leather too well to be a replacement and the alcohol stove & fuel container are unmarked. The glasses are graduated to fit into each other in two sets of 3 with the salt & pepper container in the center - all have rattan covering. The salt & pepper are not shakers - there are two small spoons in the case for the purpose. There are two stoneware containers marked "Butter" and "Preserves" with leather straps to hold the covers in place (one cover is chipped), and 3 covered enamel sandwich containers along with the plates, saucers, and cups - I have two other sets in the attic that I plan on playing musical chairs with the cups so that this one has a matching set of 6. The entire case has a slide bolt with a small padlock to hold it shut (with key), and a belt as well which may be more to hold it onto a running board than closed. Does anyone know what these would be selling for these days? Thanks, Mark<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

I was thinking 30 Buick, but thats in the same ball park...

Been a lot of years since I've made Hershey to check out the prices in the fine art tents, so I'll try this: Here is an early Wicker Picnic set for 6 with all the accoutrements you could think of. It was sold thru Brooks Brothers in NYC and is marked on the inside as such along with a made in England label. All of the tableware and the tea pot is marked G.W.S.& S. and the knives also have "Sheffield Steel". The can opener is only marked ""Clipper" Best Sheffield Steel" but fits the leather too well to be a replacement and the alcohol stove & fuel container are unmarked. The glasses are graduated to fit into each other in two sets of 3 with the salt & pepper container in the center - all have rattan covering. The salt & pepper are not shakers - there are two small spoons in the case for the purpose. There are two stoneware containers marked "Butter" and "Preserves" with leather straps to hold the covers in place (one cover is chipped), and 3 covered enamel sandwich containers along with the plates, saucers, and cups - I have two other sets in the attic that I plan on playing musical chairs with the cups so that this one has a matching set of 6. The entire case has a slide bolt with a small padlock to hold it shut (with key), and a belt as well which may be more to hold it onto a running board than closed. Does anyone know what these would be selling for these days? Thanks, Mark

13-14 with later fenders - the 15's had a cowl as opposed to the flat firewall. The diference between 13 & 14 has to do with the bottom of the door which is obscured in the picture.