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I just saw this and could not agree with you more. Even with the Classics, practical concerns regarding the weather limited what could be done in many open cars. Really loved the pictures you posted of your car as well.

I guess we need to toss (most of the) Pierce Arrows out of the club then

My concern would be the lack of a title. States are really cracking down on this, and I'd hate to buy it only to find it went "missing" in 1966.

Yep, so at this point we can only guess at the car's history and it's all speculation until I can get something more from the Benson Ford Research Center or some other place. I'll keep digging ...

I agree that two-doors weren't used for the dignitaries, but as this picture with a Ford convertible coupe shows, two-doors were used as chase vehicles. I'm thinking if they used a '37 Ford, then a '38 Lincoln is certainly possible. Given the color and trim and delivery location, it's a possibility, but I don't have any evidence at this point.

I suppose I have to agree with you, but it goes without saying I wouldn't kick either car out of my garage for leaking oil!

Hopefully someone here can help me: According to production records, my 1938 Lincoln LeBaron roadster was delivered to Alexandria, VA with black paint and medium brown leather interior. There were only two special request: 1) to add a radio, and 2) to delete the passenger side armrest. In talking with the Benson Ford Research Center, I learned that FDR's Brunn convertible sedan "Sunshine Special" was also delivered to Alexandria, VA, and also had the medium brown interior and armrest deletes in the back. Long story short, I suspect my car may have some connection to the U.S. Federal government, given its delivery location and configuration, but the Benson Ford has no records. I've seen pics of convertible coupes used as chase vehicles in presidential motorcades, but none of a car like mine. Does anyone know of any records of Full Classics purchased by the government? Thanks in advance.

Great example of a beautiful formal car.

K8096 got me thinking about Stutz. Another beautiful close-coupled sedan (I think that is the correct terminology?)

I dunno, bring the Packard and the Duesenberg to my garage and let me stew over it for a few years ...

I'm not surprised that the V-12 with its more complex overhead valve arrangement might be difficult to deal with, but I wouldn't have thought the L-head V-8 would be problematic. Or was it some other part of the mechanicals?

Edinmass -- Wow, that car embraces the length of the sedan beautifully. With regard to being a Pierce-Arrow guy, no one is required to be monogamous when it comes to cars

I'll play another card: The 1933 Silver Arrow

I don't think this car is underappreciated (and rightly so): 1936 V-16 Cadillac sedan, still in the original family. I had a chance to be a passenger a few weeks back. Just an extraordinary car.

I know I'm not the only one that feels Classic four-door cars don't get anywhere near the respect in the marketplace that they should. What are your favorites? I wave the flag for Lincoln, so here is one of mine, the 1938 Sport Sedan by Willoughby (photo from a Lincoln book of models and suggested color / interior schemes):

Dave Cole was definitely a wonderful ambassador for our cars and the hobby. He will be missed.

Standard was to have the matching paint color. The others were factory authorized options available from the dealer.

I agree with what 19tom40 said.

Today's regular gasoline is better than anything they had when that car was new, with the one exception being the ethanol that has been added. If you haven't already done it, I would replace your old rubber fuel lines or gaskets in the fuel pump and carburetor with new ones capable of withstanding the corrosive effects of ethanol, otherwise the ethanol will eat through them. You do not need a lead additive, but if you let the car sit for long periods of time, you might consider a fuel stabilizer. Hope this helps, and hopefully some other folks will chime in.

I'm not to that point yet -- they made enough of these that there should be a good set out there somewhere.

So I finally got my garage complete, and was digging into the K parts car I got last Fall. Was hoping to at least find a good 1st/2nd slider gear to replace the bad one in my '38. Alas, this transmission led a much harder life than my current one. The excessive wear on the 1st gear side of the slider and missing teeth (nearly half!) on 1st tell me someone didn't understand the concept of *unsynchronized first* -- these gears were literally beat to death until the 1st gear finally gave up half its teeth. The missing tooth out of second also tells me someone didn't understand the concept of downshifting. I will still take it apart because maybe the synchronizer is salvageable, but grrrrr.... So it appears I'm still looking for a good late K transmission if someone has one crowding up the garage.

James -- I checked your online profile and it included the Locomobile, Packard and Auburn. I updated my profile online as well and it worked fine, so it's *possible* your updates weren't saved even though you typed them in. I'd go back and put the other cars in and see if it "takes." Good luck!

Hey Keith L -- Please see private message. Thanks, Cecil Bozarth

The trim for the '37 is slightly shorter than the '38. I'd send you a pic of my trim, but I'm not sure it's exactly correct either.

Very nice! I don't think I've ever actually seen a Peerless in person.