Cadillac Fan

L29 cord?

Yes, but “the car retains its original engine” seems to be an intentional misrepresentation. Usually they dance on the line. This seems like they stepped over the line.

If you were purchasing a car only for the great race, what would you look for? Or what make/model do you think would make an ideal car?

Think the broad arrow group, former RM ers, can get $500k for this car 6 months later? https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles/016/1930-cadillac-v-16-roadster Three roadsters are being sold in Monterey this year, one “real.” this is a very confusing paragraph: The roadster offered here was meticulously restored with an original V-16 engine no. 702014. According to its build sheet, a copy of which is on file, this engine was originally mated to style no. 4361S club sedan body supplied to a buyer in Chicago. It was later owned by Wayne Merriman, a prolific early Cadillac V-16 collector and historian from Kansas. The present roadster body was built to the original style no. 4302 by the well-known craftsman Dick Kingston for Cadillac V-16 collector Walt Dietzel of Oklahoma. Inspection of the car today shows that per the build sheet the car retains its original engine, with correct motor and unit numbers, as well as the original transmission; the frame number is not discernible but is believed to be from another car. the body is not original. The frame is from “another car.” The motor is from a sedan other than the car the frame is from. Yet “the car retains its original engine.” Which car?

Yes. It will be similar to a Toyota Sienna minivan awd. Except in the minivan the electric motor drives the rear wheels. see also Ferrari sf90.

How about this one? https://www.classiccardeals.com/Listing/118764/1933-Rolls-Royce-2025-Limousine.aspx

He is trolling for someone with more money than time. here is one example: Vs https://www.classiccardeals.com/Listing/296321/1959-Cadillac-Series-62.aspx This is the same car (both pictures have the same red non authentic interior).

This seems like a good deal: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1937-rolls-royce-phantom-iii-by-hooper/

I am with the majority. 20 years ago I would have suggested the “hybrid “ path of 35 bottom end with 36 top end. But today I would want the best running option, especially for a pre ww2 car under say $150/100k.

Studebaker didn’t make the cut of 12.

Also rolls Royce is owned by BMW. Bentley is owned by VW. They should be separated if you are including the current offerings. What are your thoughts on companies that made great pre ww2 cars, but have made junk since. There are a few on your list. put another way, what new car from the manufacturers listed would you buy today? hard to think of Jaguar over the last 25 years as high quality. (S-type, x type- chains tensioner issues) Same with Alfa. Or Ford ( small car transmissions. Infamous 5.4 death rattle).

There would be no list. Only Bugatti. Bugatti of the last 20 years, while producing unbelievable modern cars, has absolutely nothing to do with the original company.

Worldwide auctioneers just sold this reproduction v16 roadster for a hammer price of $685k.

This same yellow 38-75 convertible sedan just sold at worldwide auctioneers for a hammer of $72,500. Plus 12 percent.

Do you need a white truck? https://www.jjkane.com/items/1248997/ 1922? Oakhurst, CA

Very tough to see.

Great photo and great car. I hope it gets restored.

I agree. Even if done at the factory and the only 42xx/43xx convertible coupe I don’t think a premium would be paid. I would choose a “plain” production sport phaeton if ordering new. The history of what actually happened is interesting, even if no additional value can be derived from it.

That is interesting as this car (the combination of 42xx style convertible coupe body with 43xx sills) was, according to the Cadillac Database, not made. (Yes, I know that is not definitive). But it would give me pause. see discussion under 4235: https://www.newcadillacdatabase.org/Historical/Automobiles/V16

Interesting car. Looks like a mix between 4335 straight sill but with a 4235 body (which should have the curved sills). Mecum sold a 4235 in similar colors earlier this year.

If RM sold a 25 year old restoration reproduction roadster for $175k, what will this go for? https://worldwideauctioneers.com/listings/enthusiast-auction-2022/1930-cadillac-series-452-v-16-roadster/ The dealer in AZ was asking $900k last year. It was down to $750k early this year? Any guesses? mine: hammer at $460k

I believe that a well publicized auction is retail. But there is a cottage industry of dealers who purchase cars at well known auctions and seem to turn a profit. ( though some of their cars sit for years and years). It surprises me, as I would think most people in the hobby are aware of the major car auctions and would just bid the car past the dealer. As opposed to paying the dealers profit at a later date. I am not anti-dealer, I just don’t understand paying more for something that was publicly available in the last month or year.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf21/hershey/lots/r0097-1941-cadillac-series-62-deluxe-coupe/1168113

Things are crazy. Three years ago this was an $18-20k car. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-cadillac-brougham-21/

I bet that if you put it on bring a trailer, in the next month, you will get north of $10k.