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Posted on Hudson Essex Terraplane Club Facebook page, not Marketplace, that's why it's difficult to get to...

Pictures appear to have come from this old ClassicCars.com listing... https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1673021/1935-packard-eight-for-sale-in-cadillac-michigan-49601 That being said... ...there is a website for a company that rents out 'novelty' vehicles for Special Events (including this car)... https://www.playrva.co/ It's possible the scammer knows the history and makes the ad seem more realistic... ...or maybe it is legit (no evidence that the rental company is going out of business though)... ...As Always... Buyer Beware!

Previously posted...

Not Mine - Reduced price $19,000 OLD Link - https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/waxhaw-1930-reo-coupe-reduced/7675208568.html do not use - use the one below (i.e. newer post)

Winning Bid USD $60,000

So now you know...

Beautiful Car - however - prime example of how NOT to sell a valuable car on Bring-A-Trailer... ...Not Mine... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1931-packard-standard-eight-833-rumble-seat-coupe/ This 1931 Packard Standard Eight Series 833 is fitted with rumble seat coupe bodywork, and it was delivered new to Waller Motors of Jenkins, Pennsylvania. It was refurbished under previous ownership before it was purchased by the seller’s father in 2016. The car has not been serviced in approximately three years according to the seller, and maintenance may be required prior to use. This Eighth Series Packard is now offered by the seller on behalf of his father in Naples, Florida, with a clean Alaska title in the owner’s name. My Comment - Not Seller: I feel bad for the family in their situation. Father is ill, son never drove the car until he shot the 'driving video' - with only 3 days to go, the price is very low, but the video and Seller's comments raise questions and don't inspire bidder confidence... Packard's are not my specialty, so I'd be interested in knowledgeable comments about the value of the car assuming the engine is in reasonably good shape... I have a hard time seeing this auction reaching whatever reserve the family has placed on the car...

Well, if one doesn't mind a Plymouth instead of a Dodge, the following car (Not Mine) is on Bring-a-trailer, 3 days to go, no reserve with bid sitting at $8,300 - just an alternative: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-plymouth-valiant-v200-station-wagon/

We've seen this before... ...price seems to have gone up... ...not down...

Barn Finds fell for the scam too... If you scroll down to the comments section on Barn Finds, all the potential buyers that hung in there got to the "deposit" requirement - overwhelming conclusion: scam. Barn Find Link https://barnfinds.com/same-owner-29-years-1970-chevrolet-chevelle-ss-396/

This green one sold at eBay auction today - not same restored condition as this post - but, nice original California car... https://www.ebay.com/itm/166389482079?hash=item26bd96025f:g:jZ8AAOSwvmRlNCD- Sold - High bid: $23,846 Dealer Ad Copy: Well kept one owner Northern California Car. Runs as good as it looks. Retractable roof works flawlessly. Lights blinkers gauges horn heater wipers all working. Radio is intermittent and scratchy. Owner was a certified Ford mechanic for 40 years. Original 352 was replaced in the 60s with an early 390 motor out of a police interceptor. The car starts right up and runs smoothly. Transmission is shifting properly. All glass is good. Door & Window mechanisms are all in place and working. Doors shut nice. Tires are newer radials. Stainless & brightwork is all serviceable. All is in place only showing some minor wear, dings and scuffs. Lacquer paint has had some touch up over the years which makes us consider this only driver quality paint. Overall a solid car that's always been garaged. Solid floorpans, trunk and rockers - no rust.

Regarding the stance, it may be low, but, it may be an optical illusion due to the purposeful design of lowering the roof on the back of the wagon - whoever designed it was trying something a little different... ...appealing to some, not to others...

Looks like he lifted the rear-end in some fashion - not sure if he is increasing the buying pool or decreasing it - lol

Previous post...

This appears to be a scam --- these are pictures of a car sold on Bring-a-Trailer Link to old BAT sale: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-ford-thunderbird-112/ Buyer beware - also ad says car is in Topeka, KS and the cell phone number is area code Vermont Probably why the seller wants TEXT messages, not a call...

and it says... "Possible trade for your hearse or Limousine." - You don't see that everyday

I think this is the best picture - for the folks who "just have-to-have a backup camera," this dash provides the perfect location...

update - the car is in Illinois, not Monterey, CA, and it was sold before she forwarded the pictures to me to review - must have been good pictures - apparently a lot of interest - oh well, there must be another good car out there somewhere!

Don't forget, BAT Buyer also pays 5% - so on this car, another $3,100. And then there's the cost of getting it home...

Try this link https://bid.soldwithatm.com/ui/auctions/105155/13039674 lots of pics it's a project

Thank you. If I had to "guess," I'd go with motor swap into a Royale - why? - because the firewall connections do not look right for either car - but - it's just a guess. Saillo77 is asking for confirmation and value. The only way I know to confirm is to measure the wheelbase and to find the serial number. From the REO website, I attach the best info I've found on serial numbers. I did not buy the car at the auction because Vanderbrink would not measure the WB for me, they said I had to send a rep or go myself - which was not an option at the time.

Just curious... Why does it have the smaller engine and why does the engine say Flying Cloud?

Did you measure the wheelbase? Or, did you get the serial number? (not the engine number) The radiator and the engine do not appear to be an original configuration - so - I cannot answer the question of what it is without more data. Hopefully someone else on the forum can - or - you will have to get the wheelbase and the serial number. Good luck

FYI... Production Figures... From REO Club website... Quote The chart below was assembled from data originally provided some years ago by former REO ECHO editor Ray Wood and augmented with data published in an early ‘30s Chilton Manual and is believed accurate. Note that 1931-’32 8-cylinder REOs used two distinctly different engines. The senior series 8-35 Royale and 8-30 Flying Cloud 8 used the new REO designed and built 9- main-bearing, 358 cubic inch, 125 hp unit. The 8-25 and 8-21 Flying Cloud 8s relied upon the 5-main bearing, 268 cubic inch, 90 hp Continental R-800 designed and produced for REO by Muskegon’s Continental Motors. Both engines were state-of- the-art designs and utilized modern aluminum pistons, counterbalanced crankshafts and were both statically and dynamically balanced. Except for size, bodies for all ‘31-’32 production were similarly styled and designed under the guidance of Amos Northup and produced by Murray Body Corp, Detroit, MI, and delivered in-the-white to Lansing for vehicle assembly. From the production numbers below, it is easy to understand why the majority of us have only seen at most one or two Model 8-21s or 8-25s in a lifetime. Unquote And the engine plate on the car says... REO Motor Car Co. Lansing, Mich Number R800 - 94 (it might be 594 or even 1594) so, I presume it has the 90 hp engine in it

So, I see the v'-ed radiator shell (Royale?) on this car AND I see REO Flying Cloud (R800) on the engine - pic here - so what do we have?