B Jake Moran

Thanks Larry! Well I was "fairly" close. 16 mpg I will take.

The dealer should consider that $23,000 as a market consideration. It should sell for a bit more.

I believe Sherwood Green was the name but I may be incorrect

I came in this section and I do not visit often. I happened upon your story here. I have located a similar car with low miles that would need restoration for asking $7200. I doubt I buy it to restore, but am actively looking for a 79-81 Trans Am, Formula or Camaro Z28. I will follow your restoration of this worthy car. I had a 79 Trans Am brought up from Arizona 10 years ago and did not do a thing with it, sold it cheap. Big mistake. It also came with some 10th Anniversary parts.

Time to get it out of there. Be very careful. You say that the progress isn't what you were hoping for, can I pay my bill and take it home. Pay it, then take it home and sell it. No need for more frustration. I am going to use a shop in Iowa that I have visited and was recommended by West Peterson.

Not only rare but actually a nice looking Sedanet. 1950 styling can always be debated. As Buick fans we generally like the front end treatment. But there is little doubt the 51 front end styling is great. Combine that with the Sedanet rear treatment and rarity. Wow. Beautiful colors.

I’m not a fan of these sorts of Facebook sellers. He bought it years ago to restomod it? But has now found something else he wants more? Yes, that would be a modern new car convertible. How else can you explain “not knowing if the motor is stuck or not”? And now he wants at least double what he likely paid for it. Meh.

I seldom get excited about a car purchase anymore and I am sure someone in the Buick world will buy this before me, but I love it and would go after it if I could. I too prefer the Century and Roadmasters of this era, but I have seen enough pre war, and post war, Specials to know that 248 is a nice motor in this day and age. We are at a temporary lull in gas prices here in Iowa, at about $2.65 a gallon, but it will go up. The 248 slumbering along on a tour likely gets 18 mpg. I am surprised Pete hasn't seen this and is on his way! I just don't think I can get to it fast enough

There were 2 door hardtops in the 1930's?

And there you go. A pretty darn nice Century sells for $20,000. It seems there was interest. One sale does not make a statistical difference, it just seems that $20,000 to "maybe" $25,000 ought to buy a well sorted 37-38 Century. 4 door.

The old car hobby is so expensive. 😏

Driven 42,143 miles 1955 Dodge Coronet. Runs and drives great and is ready for a car show. Has been repainted and interior is good except front seat will need reupholstered. 270 Engine. Have original sales paperwork from dealer. No trades. If it's on here it's available. I will remove when sold

Marketplace - 1955 Dodge Coronet | Facebook

Came from somewhere else. I think. It is what is - an extremely rare artifact of a bygone era.

It will be a tough sell but some Edsel collectors are rabid about the rare ones. The owner is restoring 2 1960 Edsels now and can't find the time or money for a 3rd, reason for sale. How much of the asking price is because it is one of 295 ever made vs a similar Starliner? Starliners themselves in restorable condition are rare, despite a much higher production. I would say a 1960 Starliner with a V8 as a project is at least $3,000 in similar condition. This will likely sell to an Edsel collector - friend of the owner.

Marketplace - 1960 Edsel ranger | Facebook Seller's Description This is a 1960 Edsel Ranger 2dr Hardtop. The Edsels used the same fastback bodies as the 1960 Ford Starliners, except they used the much cooler Edsel grille and tail light design! They only manufactured 295 of these over 60 years ago. That's correct, only 295, so how many can be left? Restoration work was started on this one and then, like so many, the project was abandoned. Basically, all they did was some disassembly, a little sanding, and then quit. From what I can tell, the only parts currently missing are some glass pieces (which you would want to buy new anyway), some interior panels (again, which you would want to buy new anyway), and an interior garnish molding. When I went to pick the Ranger up, it didn't have a hood on it and some trim wasn't there. I drove to Indiana and bought the hood that's currently on it. I spray bombed some color on the hood, mainly for protection (as it does need a little work), and it looks a little better too. I drove to New York and bought almost all of the trim it needed. The trunk floor is rusty and there is a little rust on the driver side floor. The rest of the sheet metal on this car, both outer and underneath, is in amazing shape! Check out the pictures. Most of the exterior is still wearing the original factory paint too, so you can really see how nice the metal really is. You just don't find them like this anymore! Be sure to check out the condition of the chrome pieces. The front bumper appears to have been rechromed and the rest of the chrome really looks good. There is very little pitting or rust. Overall, the parking light housings, grilles, tail light bezels, etc, are nice and shiny. It's very difficult to find 60 year old chrome in this condition. This Ranger has a 292 V8, an automatic transmission, and Air Conditioning, however, the AC is incomplete. It starts and stops just fine and is yard driveable. It would probably go down the road as well, although I wouldn't recommend it until some glass was installed and the wiring was updated. The fuel tank was disconnected when I got it, so I am just using a jug under the hood as well as an electric fuel pump. It has brand new dual exhaust from the manifolds back, brand new plugs, points, cap, rotor, condensor, and plug wires. Although it seems to run pretty well, it does smoke a little bit after it runs for a while. I am happy to answer any questions you might have or take more pictures if you'd like. I may also be able to deliver this Ranger right to your door, just let me know where you're located and we can go from there. Lastly, the cowl tag was lost in the disassembly, but I do have a clean and clear Minnesota title for it issued in my name that matches the frame serial number. Thanks!

A person should never have to pay $30,000 for any closed Buick now, from the teens (very few made I suppose) to the 80's. Never. In the last say 5 years, I have seen at least 200 Buicks from 1920's through 1950's for $30,000 or less that would be bronze to gold winners in 400 point judging (not that that's the end all be all for value determination) Of course you may have just picked $30,000 out of the air as a benchmark. But even $20,000 for a closed car, excepting a few 2 door hardtops in really nice shape, should buy an awful nice car. A 2 + or so. I guess if you want to spend $30,000 plus for a multi car show winner, a Doug Seybold restoration, OK, but those are the exceptions.

No not necessarily. It's an interesting discussion topic. As I recall, there was a beautiful 38 Century - Blue I believe - from the last 18 months or so on this forum sold by a collector in Minnesota that languished unsold for months with price drops, I think the last ask was $18,000 or so. I ask from a different perspective. Why do we (potential pre war buyers) need to pay ever increasing prices for pre war Buicks? "Market correction" is a good way to look at it. For those with pre war Buicks, or Buicks from any era for that matter, own them, enjoy them, drive them but why do you always believe the price needs to go up? If I own a car for 10 years, maintain it, enjoy it and purchased it for $18,000, I don't expect to get $25,000 even though it looks and drives the same.

Sold - pending status

Marketplace - 1937 Buick Roadmaster Other | Facebook Not a Roadmaster. I do like this model, I am a big fan of the 2 door Specials and Centurys during this period with those larger back windows for viewing. ****** Seller's Description If listed its available, will remove the listing when sold. Call or text for response about the car...number is listed. For sale is a 37 Buick Special 2dr slant back . Car would need complete restoration or turn into a rat rod or whatever. Straight eight engine with a manual trans. Interior isnt too bad , seats and headliner not ripped up . Doesn’t appear to have any mice issues. Floors and trunk appear to be ok . Selling with bill of sale , still looking for title . If found will be passed on to new owner. If interested Call or text …. Eight one five six hundred nine eight six five …… might trade for another vehicle in the 3k dollar range . Thanks…… might deliver for a fee if not too far .

And I don't mind being criticized, it's not personal. I do offer counterpoints sometimes because there are hundreds of fence sitters that won't comment. They just read and move on. I know I become better informed when Ed, Matt and others comment. There is no doubt that the restoration hobby has shifted away from classics to a more economical approach to enjoying the hobby. I restored a 66 Oldsmobile Toronado as my senior class project in Automotive trade school. The 425 had 105,000 miles on it, this was 1998, I or classmates did all the work and it still cost $5,000 in parts and machine work we could not do. I found Matt's detailed counterpoint informative. Lots of those "little" processes and parts on the classics that need hand made, wow.

I’m used to some of these folks criticizing my comments. I am not saying they are wrong. They are probably right. Are right (to avoid them saying my probably is wrong). I’m like you I am a “bottom feeder” without the money to do what some of these guys spend their money on. I guess we are at the point where cars like this LWB 1939 Packard will NEVER be restored. Part it out? No, no one is restoring pre war closed cars. We need to stop even bringing them to the forums attention.

Some are, but not a Custom 8 convertible.

This is an incredible bargain. $6,000? If it was a Super, maybe a bit high. But Custom 8 convertibles are a long wheelbase senior line made postwar Packard. The only Post war Packard equivalent would be the 53-56 Caribbeans.

Thank you.