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  1. Almost, Grog. A few years ago I bought a 50 Dodge Wayfarer convertible and made the fatal mistake of buying it from pictures on EBay. It turned out to be a total rustbucket, so bad that i was going to have to replace sections of the frame that had turned into Swiss cheese. The car was basically a parts car, but I found a nice 241 Hemi and decided to pull off the body, make a new frame and install the Hemi, a Torqueflite tranny and an updated rear end, restore the body and make a nice sleeper rod. I had all the parts and was ready to go when I found my old Dodge and sold off the Wayfarer and my 48 Plymouth (bone stock) to concentrate on it's restoration. But the point Matt is making is valid. These shows are in no way "reality." I'm in the business and I know how this stuff works and these shows are, as Matt says, giving young viewers a totally unrealistic view of the hobby/business as it exists in the real world. My complaint in my earlier thread was that Richard Rawlings supposedly got a new Dodge prototype from Chrysler and then "stole" the drivetrain from it to install in another project. They made a big deal that maybe Chrysler would be upset (pissed off was the term Richard used, I believe) that they had taken the motor and tranny (which they later couldn't use) out of the prototype. Come on! Any idiot knows that Dodge sponsors Richard and he knew perfectly well the drivetrain was his from the start. The entire "bit" was a set up from the get go. I've been on shoots where we have had to pay people to do things in front of the camera to get what the producer wants. This footage is later foisted off on the public as "real." Does anyone really think that these scenes where the guys go out with a trailer and discover the latest "barn find" and dicker with the fat old owner and finally get the car for a ridiculous price (either way too high or way too low) are legit? Think about it. They show up at the guy's place after spotting the gem back behind the barn where it's been sitting, apparently unnoticed by car guys for years, pull into the driveway and knock on the guy's door. He shows up and they talk about the car. Now, if you opened the door and found a two strangers standing there with a cameraman with a large video camera on his shoulder, two sound men with microphones and mixers, a producer and two production assistants behind them, what would your reaction be? Would you stand there and discuss your car, or ask what the hell is going on here? What actually happened was, the show's production staff searches for cars that fit the show's format. Once they get a good lead, they contact the owner and see if he's willing to sell the car and appear on the show. A date and time is set up for the shoot. Production assistants and crew show up early and get things ready, making sure the car in question has the proper look for the scene. They may move the car to a different location on the property to capture the light or get a better background. The sound men rig the seller with a wireless lavalier microphone for good sound. A teamster driver shows up with the star's truck and trailer. The star show up in his limo/RV and relaxes while the crew finishes the setup. The star climbs out of his air-conditioned vehicle while his driver hands him a soda/beer/cappuccino and he and the director discuss the scene with the seller - does the seller have a good story about the car? The production assistant says it belonged to your great uncle. Play that up and how you don't really want to sell it. And at the end, the star will pull out this big wad of money and give it to you. Now it turns out that the seller originally wanted a little more money for his car than the producer thought was correct for the show - after all, we have to show the buying price, the restoration costs and the final sale price at the end of the show to display the amazing profit the star just made. The producer already has a buyer for the finished car and he wants a set price (on camera) for the old heap in the barn. So, he tells the seller, "Don't worry, on camera you sell the star the car for seven grand and we'll give you three more after the shoot. That being additional to the fee paid to the seller for appearing on the show. Once the routine is set and a final price agreed on, everything is ready to go. They shoot the scene a few times until the nervous seller gets it right, then they pack up and head back to the studio to edit all this "reality." The seller is a set up, the buyers are a set up and the prices are a set up. The only reality is when Rawlings or some other "builder" takes a bath at an auction where the real price has to be displayed. And even that is not a real loss as his weekly salary as the star of the show is astronomical. Matt is right, if young folks think this is how you restore/rod a car as far as cost and prices are concerned, they will have a totally unrealistic view of the hobby/business and get into it for all the wrong reasons..
  2. I have to agree with Matt. It's disheartening but all too true. I found the first car I ever owned after over 45 years. I regretted selling it the minute it left my possession. I always dreamed of finding it again and restoring it to its former glory. I was overjoyed when that happened - but it's a 1932 Dodge Sedan. I will have more money in it than it will ever be worth, but I don't care. I'm keeping a promise to myself that I made all those years ago. The old-timers who see it appreciate it for what it is, the young folks want to know what engine is in it, and when I tell them it's the original six, they walk away with a disappointed look. I recently had a discussion in the Dodge Forum with a guy who put a Ford six in his 35 Sedan. I mentioned that Chrysler sixes were a dime a dozen and he could easily put an original engine in the car and not have to cut up the frame and modify the engine mounts. His reply - "It's what I had." His car, his right to do what he wants, but it reflects today's attitudes all too well.
  3. I'm the guilty party - I started the "Fast And Loud - Please!" thread. I actually do find some interesting things to watch in the "reality" car shows, and even more that I don't care to waste my time on. Thus, my reliable DISH-TV DVR fast forward. I simply record the shows I'm interested in and then fast forward through any of the silly junk they pass off as reality. I find about 20 percent of "Fast and Loud" tolerable. Maybe 80 to 90 percent of "Chasing Classic Cars." Sixty percent of "Graveyard Cars" - they have some interesting bits on Mopar muscle car restoration and I can just flip past the other supposedly funny stuff. Maybe 40 percent of "Misfit Garage." "Desert Car Kings" turned out some of the shoddiest restorations I've ever seen. I particularly remember a blue Studebaker coupe with enough swirl marks in the paint to make one dizzy. Sixty percent of "Bitchin' Rides" especially if your into hot rods. Ninety percent of "Overhauling" - especially the later shows without all the stupid "pranks." The "Junkyard Empire" shows I've seen seem to be a total waste of time. Seventy to eighty percent of "Wheeler Dealers." So, whatever floats your boat - use fast forward/skip to prevent wasting your valuable time.
  4. Working on Daphne in between wiring my garage for 220. I really miss my compressor and it should be up and running by the weekend. I finally finished the seat bottom. Aside from the roof insert, this is the only structural wood in the 32 DL. The old seat bottom developed some dry rot and was showing multiple cracks, so a new oak replacement was in order. I'm no woodworker, but my daughter and son-in-law both work at the local high school so I was able to use the wood shop and make use of some tools I can't ordinarily get my hands on. It actually came out pretty good, if I do say so myself. I built it exactly the way the original was constructed. That's the adjustable seat mechanism sitting on top. The joints weren't too complex and routing out the channels for the seat adjuster and the spring wasn't that difficult. Amazingly, the new bottom fit like a glove! Running boards, battery box, battery supports and the tool box are at the powdercoaters and should be ready next week.
  5. Thanks everyone for your kind replies and support. I find posting the progress of the restoration helps me keep track of things. On many occasions I've gone back and looked at previous posts and replies to help me with a problem I've almost forgotten about. This is a terrific forum with lots of knowledgeable and very helpful members.
  6. I'm curious as to how you folded the "creases" in the running boards you made up. Did you make it from one sheet of steel as per the originals? I know Ed and Jimmy had a devil of a time figuring out how to do it. I would love to hear your solution to the problem - and they probably would, too!
  7. Taylormade

    36 Fastback

    I went to pickup some sheet metal parts at Thomas Restorations in Columbia, Missouri for my 32 Dodge. You can read about the restoration here - http://forums.aaca.org/showthread.php?t=348459&page=24&p=1419376#post1419376 While I was there, Ed Thomas showed me his new project, a 36 Plymouth fastback sedan - much rarer than the humpback. It's been sitting a shed for forty years. All original, including the motor, with 88,000 miles. It came out of the factory black and Ed plans to restore it to original. Some teens tore up the front sheetmetal and Ed will need new front fenders, but the hood and hood panels are good and the grill survived in decent shape. Should be an interesting project.
  8. Ed also showed me his new project - a 36 Plymouth that had been sitting in a local shed for 40 years. Love that rare fastback! Original motor with 88,000 miles. It will be done all original with a black paint job. With Ed's metal working skills, this body should be straight as a arrow. It doesn't look too bad right now, with the only damage to the lower rear.
  9. I also picked up my new tool box, which sits in the V of the X-frame. Just a little nicer than the original. Same for the battery box. New exhaust bracket for the tailpipe. They are all also headed to the powdercoater.
  10. Drove to Thomas Restorations in Columbia, Missouri to pick up a load of sheet metal. This was sitting in the shop as I walked in. It's not a Dodge, but it sure is nice - all original except for paint, although the jams and engine compartment are original finish and it's hard to tell the difference. It's getting a new manifold - a rare item since it's a flathead six rather than a V-8. My running boards are finished and they look great! Old vs new. Really nice workmanship on Ed's part. Some of the laser cut parts that went into the construction. The new boards weigh almost twice as much as the old ones, although the metal is the same thickness. Over half the metal rusted away in the old boards. Tomorrow I'll check the fit and then they are off to the powdercoaters for a semi-gloss black finish.
  11. I hope everything is okay. Not to sound crass, but I'm glad I bit the bullet and bought mine last month.
  12. Nothing very exciting going on at the moment. The bottom of the front seat was in pretty bad shape, with the wood dried out and rather brittle and an area that was badly singed by the heat of the muffler. So, the old woodworking skills were put to the test. It turned out to be a simple job, with all the corner joints simple half laps and a mortise and tenon set up on the cross piece. This shows two corners glued and the center piece just sitting on top. I just need to remember to put the center piece in before I glue the other two corners! I used oak. I was surprised at how crude the workmanship was on the old piece - the joints were not even and the tenons were very rough. I guess they figured it was all covered by the seat cushion, so who cared. I'll rough cut the shape and then, using the original piece as a pattern, use a router with a guide bit to cut it to the final dimensions. I made new shock absorber backing plates. Somehow, I have misplaced the originals. I'm sure they will show up as soon as I mount the shocks. Oh well, it was nice to paint something smooth, without having to grind off all the rust and pitting. My replacement carb arrived and it looks real nice. Next up - clean the rebuilt engine and get a coat of gray paint on it.
  13. It's slightly different on the 32, but very close. The repo trim I purchased comes with clips that mount the front trim piece using the slots you can see in your photos.
  14. I think the price is top dollar for that car, but I do agree the coupes are one sharp looking automobile. I am a Dodge guy and watch EBay all the time. The prices for these coupes seem to range between 18 and 35 grand (American dollars) depending on condition and location. If you're in for the long haul and enjoy working on your car as well as driving it, you may want to just spring for it and enjoy the ride. I found my first car (the actual car) after 43 years and bought it back. By the time it's restored, I'll have more in it than it will ever be worth, but I don't care - I'm enjoying every minute of having my 32 DL back - even if it is a sedan. I'm not an expert on the 33 model - did they have overdrive as a factory option? You may want to check and see if it is the original motor and trans before you agree on a price. Some pictures would be nice - hint, hint.
  15. My restoration of Daphne has suddenly gone high tech! I just got these photos from my metal guy Ed Thomas as he and a friend figured out how to make the running broads for the old DL. They were originally made from one piece of metal folded multiple times into the running board. Ed discovered this was no easy task to reproduce. He went over to his buddy Jimmy Hervatin's shop in Warrenton, Missouri and they hauled out the CNC equipment and ended up making custom designed brakes to form the boards. Here's Jimmy at the computer getting things set up to make the end pieces. Here's the laser cutter at work cutting various end pieces and supports. Once the small stuff was out of the way Ed said they " used four different breaks, a beadroller, and a Pullmax machine with new custom tooling to final crimp the seams. Over 30 operations to finish one flat panel not counting all the brace work and mounting tabs. You might say this is a little bit of an advanced metal break project." Here's Jimmy with the almost finished piece - one more bend to go.. I'm picking the running boards, battery boxes, tool box and exhaust brace on Monday.
  16. Not in love with the color or the upholstery, but a nice car. It will be interesting to see if it sells and for what price.
  17. It appears the repo inner pieces lack the slight ridge visible on your original part. That is a bit disappointing.
  18. The originals on my car were long gone - replaced by simple square aluminum pieces - so I can't compare thickness of the original. These are quite substantial, I must say.
  19. The photos are less than perfect, but I didn't want to completely unwrap them until I was ready to use them. You get all four pieces for each running board. This is the outer trim and seems to match what I've seen on the original cars. This is the inner piece, a simpler shape that also appears accurate. I didn't shoot the end pieces. Everything came well packaged in a PVC plastic tube with wooden ends screwed in place. The parts will need some polishing, but I'm very satisfied with the purchase.
  20. I bought a set for my 32 Dodge DL. Arrived within a week of my order and they look good. I just bought them on March 2 of this year, left a message at the number you listed and he returned my call within a day or two. Maybe he's on vacation or out of town at the moment.
  21. Maybe, but I bet he puts the same price up if he relists it.
  22. Looks like a spring cover, leather or canvas wrapped around the spring to hold lube and keep dirt out. Nice car, but unrealistically priced. A nice 24 DB roadster just sold on the Bay for $9,000. The touring needed more work. There was nice touring -restored - in the Dodge Brothers Club magazine want ads for $12,500. This car is worth around ten grand at best.
  23. Okay, I surrender. I agree with ever post above, no matter what was said, and will never complain again. Must be the cold weather that's turning me into an old grump. Sorry, I have to leave my computer now and chase those neighbor kids off my front lawn, the little...
  24. Thanks for the kind post, Rusty. I guess you believe every car dealer is a crook, every businessman a cheat, every restoration shop an overpriced scam and every filmmaker produces nothing but fake garbage. We recently returned from Africa after a six week shoot documenting the devastation of AIDS on the continent. I'm very proud of the work we did there. I'm also proud of the work I did on the PBS Nova series, including a two hour show on building the first cable suspension bridge across the Mississippi. I filmed scenes in a steel shaft eighty feet down in the river and shot from the top of a 380 foot bridge tower. I have no intention of changing professions and have enjoyed almost every minute of my 43 year career. The technical people on these car shows do good work, sometimes they are not responsible for what a director or producer does with the footage. I have quit shoots were I've felt the production was heading in the wrong direction. I don't know what you do for a living, but I certainly would not waste my time denigrating it in a personal attack, nor would I want to.