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  1. Hi Bob, As often happens, I am late to the game. I don't often visit this site. I spent quite a bit of time looking through a bearing catalogue (it may have been Timken) and could not find any direct replacement for the caged ball bearings used by Metz for the front wheels. If the cup fit the hub, the ID of the cone was too large to fit the stub axle of the spindle. Conversely, a cone which fit the spindle had a cup too small in OD to fit the hub. And then there was the issue of overall width of some cone & cup sets being too wide for the hub. Oh,
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    Metz chain guards

    Yes, the chain covers are almost always missing. I suspect that after a few removals for servicing the chain they were discarded as being "too much trouble" to re-install. I have shaken my head when I peruse the For Sale Ads, in recent years, of Metz cars which have received expensive restorations and the chain covers along with other guards or covers are Missing. Big money for Completely and Authenticity restored cars. Buyer Beware and Do Your Research.
  3. Hi Matt, Welcome to the Metz Family. We are looking forward to you receiving your car and hope that you will share with us pictures of it as delivered to you, and, also share additional pictures of your progress during the restoration of your Model 22. I will offer answers to your questions. Regarding the fan: The Model 22 DID NOT have a belt driven fan as built from the factory. They have been added, over the years, by previous owners. The flywheel has "fan shaped" spokes which draw air
  4. Greetings All, I am quite late to this party as I have only now found this thread, but have read each entry; some with enjoyment and approval and others with a bit of sorrow or pity (mrcvs is near the top of that list). I envy those of you who have completed thousand mile (and longer) journeys. Various responsibilities and the lack of adequate funding keep me on a short leash and trips requiring multiple days away from home have not been possible, but I DO relish getting behind the wheel of my antiques and savoring a day long motor trip along the bucolic rural back roads
  5. I am planning to attend with my 1914 Model 22.
  6. Hello Chris, I just now stumbled onto this post and your quite intriguing project. As a Metz owner I keep my eyes open for spare Champion 32 plugs and have not found any. Thank you for investigating the possibilities. Best Regards, Bill
  7. I have a friction drive car, although it is a Metz, not a Cartercar. I have not been able to spend much time with it lately, but it is my desire to drive it often in an effort to disprove the fiction that Friction Drive is no good, not dependable, and generally unsuitable for touring. Metz won the 1913 Glidden tour. Someone toured one down through the Grand Canyon. The Metz company offered a $1000 reward to anyone showing a hill which a Metz car could not climb. They CAN'T be as miserable as so many people claim.
  8. Hi Phil, Thank you for your appreciation of me driving to Waltham from Keene. I have had this car for just over three years and this was the longest, successful, trip I have completed so far. I have not been able to spend any time on the Metz for quite a while, having been off in the weeds and only a short time ago was able to return to the garden path and resume my Metz care. I had planned to use the car on the HCCA New England Brass & Gas tour this year, but while driving it up TO the tour I developed a sig
  9. The annual Metz Gathering was a pleasure to attend as I was able to DRIVE my car from my home in Keene, NH to Waltham, MA. I have been wanting to bring it there since I acquired it three years ago but only this year was I able to do so. It is a real shame that the cars in attendance ten or so years ago no longer appear. I wonder what happened to those cars. I also wonder if the owners have just lost interest. This event gives Metz owners a great opportunity to share notes, hints, successes and mistakes to further our enjoyment of these unique cars. I am looking forward to next year.
  10. I have been off in the weeds for some time and have only very recently been able to touch my Metz. I am planning to attend. I might be able to get my car there. A picture of it taken a year ago:
  11. Hi Rod, All of the above comments regarding "museum cars" are useful and I can't add much to that part of the discussion. I will offer my two cents worth regarding the car you are considering. The car is the wrong color for a 1912 Metz. It should be Battleship Gray; wheels, body, and fenders. The window in the top's rear curtain is the wrong shape and the front edge of the top doesn't look correct either. The chain covers are absent, as they often are on many chain driven cars and on most Metz
  12. Hello Everyone, My 1914 Metz Model 22 has one front wheel bearing which is nearing the end of its useful life. The other bearing on that wheel and the bearings on the other front wheel are serviceable. I have not looked at the rear wheel bearings just yet. My question is: Have any of you found modern replacements for the front wheel bearings and if so would you share the part numbers for the cone and cup? Studying the Metz parts book suggests that the rear outer bearing is the same as used on the front wheels and the the inner rear wheel bearing
  13. Hi Steve Moskowitz, Would you be able to post any pictures of the recently donated 1914 Metz? I would sure like to see it. Thank you. Best Regards, Bill Harper Keene, New Hampshire
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    Who Owns A Metz?

    Hello Everyone, I am happy to join this conversation. I purchased a 1914 Metz Model 22 about a year and a half ago. It is an older restoration. The colors are wrong (apparently the restorer liked yellow) but the car is reasonably complete and mostly correct. The engine number is 28284. I come from the Ford Model T world, so this is not my first rodeo. I will confess that learning to drive this car has been interesting, and that was something which I wanted to experience when I got my second brass era car. I am hoping to dr
  15. I prefer large photos as they show more detail.
  16. Greetings Metz Masters, My understanding is that the cut out was only used when the motorist needed additional power, as when hill climbing, and thus hot exhaust gases would not often be blown onto the wooden running board support. My '14 Model 22 has a piece of sheet metal attached to that cross member to protect it from the hot gases when the flap is open. I do not know if it was installed by the fellow who restored my car back in the late '60s / early '70s or some previous owner. I doubt that it came from the factory
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    Metz models

    Greetings All, I feel a bit odd by replying to this old thread, but I was searching through old posts looking for anything related to Metz and found this one. I bought Ed's Metz. I will attach a few pictures of it which Ed used in his for sale ad on the HCCA website back in 2016. The car runs and drives. I have been getting it sorted with the intent of touring with it. The longest trip so far was 118 miles but, alas, it returned home on the ramp truck. Oh well. My
  18. Thank you, JV Puleo, this information may be useful to me as I continue to sort out my 1914 Metz Model 22. Best Regards, Bill
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