Bharper

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  1. Hello Chris, I just now stumbled onto this post and your quite intriguing project. As a Metz owner I keep my eyes open for spare Champion 32 plugs and have not found any. Thank you for investigating the possibilities. Best Regards, Bill
  2. I have a friction drive car, although it is a Metz, not a Cartercar. I have not been able to spend much time with it lately, but it is my desire to drive it often in an effort to disprove the fiction that Friction Drive is no good, not dependable, and generally unsuitable for touring. Metz won the 1913 Glidden tour. Someone toured one down through the Grand Canyon. The Metz company offered a $1000 reward to anyone showing a hill which a Metz car could not climb. They CAN'T be as miserable as so many people claim.
  3. Hi Phil, Thank you for your appreciation of me driving to Waltham from Keene. I have had this car for just over three years and this was the longest, successful, trip I have completed so far. I have not been able to spend any time on the Metz for quite a while, having been off in the weeds and only a short time ago was able to return to the garden path and resume my Metz care. I had planned to use the car on the HCCA New England Brass & Gas tour this year, but while driving it up TO the tour I developed a significant coolant leak and had to return home. I did not have time for a proper repair of the radiator before the Waltham meet and resorted to "band-aid" repairs, I'm embarrassed to admit. It appeared to hold well. My journey started well, with the car running nicely as I reminded myself how to operate a friction drive car. I had travelled only about 16 miles when a particularly steep hill showed me that I could not downshift well and then had to pull over to the side of the road. Trying to climb the hill in first speed provided no forward motion and filled the air with the smell of burning paper. Heavy sigh. Sensing the approach of defeat, I reached for the necessary wrenches with which to do battle and dove under the car to make adjustments to the pressure pedal. I did not drop the transmission cover to measure the clearance between the driving disk and the friction wheel, but adjusted the spacing on faith and the spring pressure by feel. After crawling out from under the car and putting away the tools, I saw that my radiator band-aid was now weeping. Another heavy sigh. I topped off the water and started the engine. I tried really hard to sense the slip and grab of the friction wheel against the driving disk and worked to feather the pressure pedal to get the necessary balance which would allow the car to climb the hill without further burning of the friction wheel and without stalling the engine. Oh, and without letting the brake slip too much and the car rolling backwards. [This is where I mention to those not familiar with the Metz that both the pressure pedal and the brake pedal LOCK DOWN when depressed, unless held "just so" with the ball of your foot, and will require a toe tap to release them.] A few challenging and instructive moments ensued and the car began to move forward and climb the hill! I felt a great sense of gratitude as I crested the summit and reflected on feathering of the pressure pedal. My route to Waltham from Keene had my on lightly travelled roads so I was able to pay attention to pedal pressure, engine speed, and road speed in order to apply just enough pedal pressure and no more. I found that I had to stop about every 45 or so minutes to refill the radiator top tank. The car presented me with no additional problems. I will comment that traversing the roundabout at Route 2 in Concord, MA was fraught with danger and a bit of terror. The great congestion of downtown Waltham was extremely unpleasant and it was a huge relief when the Waltham Museum hove into sight. The return trip only required the regular stops for water. My car was the only one driven to the meet. Dave Adams trailered his not yet running 1911 Plan Car and Bill Metz trailered his 1917 Model 25 from New York.
  4. The annual Metz Gathering was a pleasure to attend as I was able to DRIVE my car from my home in Keene, NH to Waltham, MA. I have been wanting to bring it there since I acquired it three years ago but only this year was I able to do so. It is a real shame that the cars in attendance ten or so years ago no longer appear. I wonder what happened to those cars. I also wonder if the owners have just lost interest. This event gives Metz owners a great opportunity to share notes, hints, successes and mistakes to further our enjoyment of these unique cars. I am looking forward to next year. The round trip was about 150 miles. My '14 Model 22 Torpedo Runabout at the Waltham Museum with Bob Mcgann, of the Waltham Museum, dressed as C.H. Metz.
  5. I have been off in the weeds for some time and have only very recently been able to touch my Metz. I am planning to attend. I might be able to get my car there. A picture of it taken a year ago:
  6. Hi Rod, All of the above comments regarding "museum cars" are useful and I can't add much to that part of the discussion. I will offer my two cents worth regarding the car you are considering. The car is the wrong color for a 1912 Metz. It should be Battleship Gray; wheels, body, and fenders. The window in the top's rear curtain is the wrong shape and the front edge of the top doesn't look correct either. The chain covers are absent, as they often are on many chain driven cars and on most Metz cars. The engine under cover is absent, it is an important part of the engine cooling system as it helps to direct air flow. The transmission cover also is missing, it protects the driving disk and friction wheel from road debris. I can't recall if the engine valve covers are present, they keep road debris off the valve train. It IS a very nice LOOKING car. Not COMPLETE, but nice to look at. I have a '14 Metz Model 22 and it is a hoot to drive. It wears a very old and now flaking paint job in very wrong colors. It is rather complete and correct. It starts easily and runs well. A Metz is a decent little car and I am committed to proving that they can be a worthy tour car. Good luck with your contemplation and possible negotiation, Bill
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    Metz Wheel Bearings

    Hello Everyone, My 1914 Metz Model 22 has one front wheel bearing which is nearing the end of its useful life. The other bearing on that wheel and the bearings on the other front wheel are serviceable. I have not looked at the rear wheel bearings just yet. My question is: Have any of you found modern replacements for the front wheel bearings and if so would you share the part numbers for the cone and cup? Studying the Metz parts book suggests that the rear outer bearing is the same as used on the front wheels and the the inner rear wheel bearing is different. Would any of you have numbers for that bearing as well? I doubt that I am the first Metz owner to have to replace the original ball bearings with modern tapered roller bearings and I am hoping that some good soul here will offer some assistance. If I am breaking new ground here then I will share whatever information I discover. Thank you in advance, Bill Harper Keene, New Hampshire
  8. Hi Steve Moskowitz, Would you be able to post any pictures of the recently donated 1914 Metz? I would sure like to see it. Thank you. Best Regards, Bill Harper Keene, New Hampshire
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    Who Owns A Metz?

    Hello Everyone, I am happy to join this conversation. I purchased a 1914 Metz Model 22 about a year and a half ago. It is an older restoration. The colors are wrong (apparently the restorer liked yellow) but the car is reasonably complete and mostly correct. The engine number is 28284. I come from the Ford Model T world, so this is not my first rodeo. I will confess that learning to drive this car has been interesting, and that was something which I wanted to experience when I got my second brass era car. I am hoping to drive my Metz to the Annual Gathering at the museum in Waltham in July. Best Regards, Bill Harper Keene, New Hampshire
  10. I prefer large photos as they show more detail.
  11. Greetings Metz Masters, My understanding is that the cut out was only used when the motorist needed additional power, as when hill climbing, and thus hot exhaust gases would not often be blown onto the wooden running board support. My '14 Model 22 has a piece of sheet metal attached to that cross member to protect it from the hot gases when the flap is open. I do not know if it was installed by the fellow who restored my car back in the late '60s / early '70s or some previous owner. I doubt that it came from the factory. I have seen a picture of another Model 22 with a piece of tin wrapped around the wooden support as a protection. It is interesting, and as yet unexplained, that while all of the Model 22 mufflers have the cutout flap my car never had the pedal used to actuate the flap. There is no slot in the floorboard for the pedal. They are the original floorboards and not replaced. Good luck with your projects, Bill
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    Metz models

    Greetings All, I feel a bit odd by replying to this old thread, but I was searching through old posts looking for anything related to Metz and found this one. I bought Ed's Metz. I will attach a few pictures of it which Ed used in his for sale ad on the HCCA website back in 2016. The car runs and drives. I have been getting it sorted with the intent of touring with it. The longest trip so far was 118 miles but, alas, it returned home on the ramp truck. Oh well. My long term goal is to prove that the Metz is not deserving of the miserable reputation with which many regard it. Hopefully I won't become Don Quixote astride Rocinante. Best Regards, Bill Harper Keene, New Hampshire
  13. Thank you, JV Puleo, this information may be useful to me as I continue to sort out my 1914 Metz Model 22. Best Regards, Bill