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It was fun to try and recreate the 1912 image as best we could!

I don't know if this will help at this point, but I figured it couldn't hurt to upload this image

Jim - Thomas Guilbault just recently posted on the FB group "Metz/Waltham Vehicles - Motorcycle - Orient Bicycle" that he found the motor number on the car he is working on. In his picture it looked like the number had been painted over and was located on the flat area next to what he called the breather cover. In your picture, the cover is black with what look like brass flathead screws. The flat area opposite the magneto above the valves is where it looks like he found the number. I'm not familiar with the air-cooled Metz cars, but I hope this helps. If you are on Facebook (I reluctantly am), you might want to join the FB Group mentioned above. I added your car to my list of cars.

We can only hope that the weather decides to cooperate better in 2024. The show at the Gore Place will be held August 4th, 2024. Please check out the attached flier for information. Hope to see the sun and Orient/Metz/MM owners, builders, buyers and dreamers at the Gore Place! Keep an eye out for any updates on the show and urge anyone you know to come to this event. I'd like to thank Greg Anderson who has done an incredible job working with the Motorhead Car Show, The Waltham Museum, The Gore Place and many car groups to pull this all together.

Plans are being made to hold the show/gathering in the Spring, date to be determined. The weather just wouldn't cooperate this year. The new date will be posted here and on Facebook. Hope to see you when Spring has sprung!

Due to weather concerns the car show at the Gore Place in Waltham has been postponed until Sunday, October 22. Hope you can make plans to get together with other Metz enthusiasts and enjoy better weather.

The Sunday Car Show at Gore Place has been postponed due to weather, but the Metz Day at the Waltham Museum on Saturday September 23 is still a go! Check these links for more info on activities: https://facebook.com/events/s/metz-day-11am-talk-a-historic-/628036682762705/ https://facebook.com/events/s/metz-day-1pm-talk-bob-mcgann-a/6563917686980114/ Still hope to see everyone at Gore Place on October 22 for the car show.

Update Update Update Due to weather, Metz / Waltham / Pre-War Vehicle Show @ Motorheads Car Show Prewar vehicles event has been postponed to October 22nd. Same time same location Gore Place Waltham,Ma. The Waltham Museum events planned for September 23st will go on as planned.

eBay listing 403356942598 shows an earlier Metz 22 with a tire carrier on the back, but it is most likely adapted to fit. It is also not a turtleback. The 1913 Glidden cars were 1914 model cars and pictures show a spare on the turtledeck - see attached picture. I have not seen a model 22 with a tire carrier like that, but that doesn't mean one isn't out there. My 1917 Metz 25 has a tire carrier that is mounted to the frame in the rear of the car and looks to be an option at that time. Sorry not much help, but you could probably find something that would mount a spare in that location.

It's Getting Close! Going to be a TWO DAY EVENT SEPT. 23 Waltham Museum and SEPT. 24 Gore Place Car Show Day One: Waltham Museum Metz Day 25 Lexington Street Waltham, MA 02452 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM Special Features: 11:00 An Historic Look at Bicycling in Waltham - With David V. Herlihy Day Two: Gore Place with Motorheads Car Show 52 Gore Place Waltham, MA 02453 7:00 AM - 3:00 PM Please come to share information on Orient/Metz bicycles, motorcycles, airplanes and automobiles. Bring your display items or just come for the show. It looks to be a great event again this year. FOR MORE INFORMATION - check the Metz/Waltham Vehicles FB group or The Waltham Museum FB group pages call 781-893-9020 for the museum

Hi Pat - Very nice Speedster. I am keeping a list of cars as I come across them, would you happen to know the motor number of this car? I'd like to add it to my list and see if I might have any history on the car.

Hi Pat - Very nice car. Would you happen to know the motor number for the car? I've been keeping a list of cars and I'd like to add this one. Thanks

A couple more pictures

Realized tonight that I hadn't put any pictures of the Metz days in Waltham. We had really good weather both days and there was much interest in our cars from the car show attendees. I had a great time and met and talked with many people. We were even able to reproduce (as best as we could) a 1912 photo of the Gore Place. The star of the meeting was George King's 1901 Orient, he won the Metz trophy for the show.