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#1 Wildcat65

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Posted 14 November 2008 - 05:48 PM

I've had the Burgundy Mist Wildcat Custom Coupe in a local shop for a total frame off restoration. They have made excellent progress in the last year! This car was "found" be Pete Phillips and listed as a lead in the Buick Bugle circa 2001. I had it shipped sight unseen from Katy Tx and drove it a little- bad oil pressure and a then a bad fuel pump, I removed the dual quads, took it to BG once for the GS nats,
broke the 3.42 rear end and basically parked it.

Before: Detrimmed and with a KW replacement engine...some Camaro 4-speed...
I have had the original trans rebuilt with NOS gears(the high nickel content ones)
Rebuilt the 3.42:1 differential- they appear to be HD compared to the 65 Riv ones I've seen...

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The frame all resto'd

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The real deal ##s carbs for a 65 4-speed- Thanks Jim Wall!!!

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A little burgundy paint!

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#2 JohnD1956

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 12:20 AM

Sweet Biscuits! That is gonna be awesome when finished. Hope to see it someday.
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Posted 15 November 2008 - 03:51 AM

WOW! I'm a fan of the big GM cars when they have unusual drivetrains or options - how few of these were built? When was the last year for 3-speeds / 4-speeds in the full-size Buick? Were the manual transmissions available in all body styles?

Cool!

This will be a great car when completed... I envy you!
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Posted 15 November 2008 - 05:22 AM

Attaboy Ted...now I'm going to have to go put on a WOT shirt.

That reminds me that I have a bit to do on my 'Cat yet before the long winter sleep...never enough hours.
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Posted 15 November 2008 - 02:46 PM

Yep, I have my WOT shirt on today!
Doug- 65 was the last year for the 4-speed in the big car...second to last for the nailhead/dual quad feature, so that is one of the attractions of this WIldcat.

<span style="font-weight: bold">194</span> Wildcat custom coupes were built w/4-speeds-
<span style="font-weight: bold">65 </span> Custom coupes with dual quad 4-speed
<span style="font-weight: bold">18</span> Custom coupes with dual quad 4-speed <span style="font-weight: bold">and</span> A/C
Mine was originally an LW (single 4bbl 425) -
that is one of <span style="font-weight: bold">65</span> LW + 4-speed; <span style="font-weight: bold">11</span> of those were with A/C

From the Daily Car Report/ Buick Motor Division/8-24-65, pp 212, 214, 216

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 03:00 PM

Ok Doug, as I understand the Buick Wildcat cars...
62 no manual trans option (subject to further research!)
63 column shift 3-speed std, 4-speed optional, auto=last year for the Dynaflo.
64 column shift 3-speed std, 4-speed optional, auto=ST 400 first year- not super clear on SP feature
65 column shift 3-speed std, 4-speed optional, auto=ST 400 first year for switch pitch
66 column shift 3-speed std, ST400 Optional

In 65 and 66 the Electra and Wildcat shared the same wheelbase but the Electra only offered the ST400.
LeSabre were 3" shorter, offered the column shift, ST300 or ST400.

All other year configs would be a guess to me.
I've concentrated my research on the 64, 65, 66 Wildcats, 65 LeSabre, and 65 Electra. And I liked it!

Cheers!
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:07 PM

Sweet, Ted, so damn sweet! Since you broke the poor thing so many times when you first got it, I'll go ahead and take that one off your hands. Cool? Was this a console/bucket seat car, or a bench? I can't remember. Either way, it is flipping cool!

They made Wildcats in 3-speeds? Who in their right mind would want a 3-on-the-tree Wildcat Custom coupe anyway???


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Posted 14 February 2009 - 06:39 PM

Hey Ted,
Just wondering, what local shop you had do the work?

Can't wait until spring so I can come check out the garage again!

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 03:06 AM

Hey Brian!
I've got the 4-speed over at Antique Auto Shop in Hebron.

I have to pick up a new toy Monday... Stay tuned same Wildcat time same Wildcat channel!

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Posted 15 February 2009 - 03:08 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 4-Speed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They made Wildcats in 3-speeds? Who in their right mind would want a 3-on-the-tree Wildcat Custom coupe anyway???


Matt </div></div>

Ummmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Maybe not a custom.....

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65 Wildcat Custom Convertible

65 Skylark Gran Sport

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 12:42 AM

Ted, you owe me one...

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 03:53 AM

Wildcat 3-speed - no power brakes or steering! Wow...
I picked this up in Knoxville yesterday, got it running a lot better tonight and went for a wild ride up and down the street- that steering is ruff!!!!

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65 Wildcat Custom Convertible

65 Skylark Gran Sport

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68 GS 400

68 GS 400 convertible

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69 GS 400 Stage 1 

70 GS 455 Stage 1

 


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Posted 18 February 2009 - 04:39 AM

That's pretty cool. It's interesting how relatively close the '65 and '66 are in body, but the dashes are vastly different...never really noticed that before.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:02 AM

Ted, that's a great find. Thanks for sharing the photos here. The standard Wildcat coupes (not Deluxe or Custom) seem to be very scarce. I've only seen a couple.

Burgundy Mist was certainly a popular color for these beautiful cars.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:51 AM

Looks like a very solid car. Wish I had found it! I had a '63 LeSabre 3-speed stick once, with no power steering. You definitely get a work-out if you have to parallel park one of those! They don't have the big, wide steering wheel that you get in earlier (1950s) cars without power steering.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 10:34 PM

Nice Car Ted!
Wish I would have found this one...you seem to be blessed with finding all the great cars!

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 04:29 AM

Oh man is this 3-speed fun to drive. I've got to do the exhaust (waldron's) and then its my summer car this year. It runs great...may need a clutch adjustment...I really want paint and interior, but thats not happening this year. The 4-speed is happening! It is painted, now needs assembly. Dang that engine builder! (me)

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 02:36 AM

I installed a Waldron's exhaust last weekend- very satisfied, they do a nice job! Recommended vendor. The 3-speed runs really well, I got new tires and its a cruising vessel. I parked while on my cell phone Sunday. No power steering. I'm gonna look like popeye if I drive this thong all the time!

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65 Wildcat Custom Convertible

65 Skylark Gran Sport

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 03:44 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wildcat65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No power steering. I'm gonna look like popeye if I drive this thong all the time! </div></div>

Well then, you'll just be muscular like the Wildcat <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif
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Posted 15 August 2009 - 02:11 AM

after seeing your pictures of your 65 wildcat and reading about you buying it out of texas, you described it so much like a 1965 wildcat 425 4 speed car that i owned 20 years ago. i put dual carbs with a hand made oval air cleaner, removed all chrome down the sides and around the fender wells. it was the same color with black interior, bucket seats. i also put on buick alum finned valve covers, 15'' buick chrome wheels and most importantly i sold it to a man in texas. what is the chance it's the same car? i still have pictures and am looking for some papers to see if i can find the vin#. if this is the same wildcat its a great car and was bought new in texas and the owner moved to w. va. where years later i bought it. i am very interested to see if this old wildcat still lives. thank you for any information you have.




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