DonLarson Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Merry Christmas to all! I was 'googling' for some auto appraisers / auctions and found RM Auctions listed - They seemed to focus on the 'older' autos (compared to Barrett/Jackson). Has anyone attended any of the RM Auctions or have dealt with them over the past? I have a 1912 Clement Bayard Torpedo, and have no idea as to it's value - I am considering selling it and would like to have it appraised first. RM Auctions are a Canadian company but, have showrooms in Ft. Lauderdale and Michigan. I do believe they also have collectable cars on consignment. Any help or other suggestions would be appreciated. Best regards / Don Larson / Orlando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Your best bet would be to list it on www.PreWarCar.com once you deside what you want for it. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Don, while I have not had first hand experience in consigning a car with them, RM has a great reputation in the hobby. They are a sponsor of this website and just concluded a very successful auction for one of our members, Jerry Capizzi.The appraisal will be an interesting challenge as I am sure the list of Clement Bayards that have sold in the last few years is a huge one! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 I have dealt with RM and I feel (in my humble opinion) that they are a terrific organization, they know the market, have built a solid customer base of affluent car buyers and above all, they are honest--no funny business, none of the shenanigans other outfits are known to pull. I'm sure there are other firms as square and honest, I just know from experience that RM is a fine company to do business with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLarson Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 Finding a price is going to be my biggest quandry . . I bought the Clement Bayard as a 'package deal' with a Model T Panel Truck . . sold the truck - still have the Clement Bayard but could really use the room . . . . right now have three old cars, a stray cat and who knows what else in there!! I think I'll give both Prewar and RM a call and see what I can figure out - Thanks / Don I'd post a picture but, don't know how to do that . . .on this forum . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Don, e-mail the picture to me at....hot32rodder@yahoo.comWayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 The picture is up!W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Don, very interesting vehicle. Kind of reminds me of the comment that the doctor made when I was born "he has the face only a mother could love"! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Sure has a unusual look to it! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I think I know someone who might be interested in it...i will email him now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 In my humble opinion it will be very hard to establish a market value for that car short of actually selling it. An appraiser can only go by "comparable sales" and if there are few or none it makes the job impossible. Choosing the right auction venue is as important as the company. That car would be appropriate for RM's Arizona sale (to late for that one), Amelia Island, or Meadowbrook. Also, the Hershey Auction is a good place for older antiques based on the demographics of the attendees (and other cars). The prewarcar.com suggestion was a very good one too. Joris Bergsma who runs the site seems like a good guy and gets very excited over these kinds of cars.A.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rbl2 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Cars like that make me wish I was rich if for no other reason then to be able to buy cars like that. That's really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLarson Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 Steve; It's a great and very interesting automobile . . Like some of the very old Renaults . .the Radiator is BEHIND the motor. The only 'grill' is on the sides of the hood. The hood is really aerodynamically curved to increase the speed of the wind as you're moving forward . . . I guess the trick is . . .KEEP moving forward. I'm really a 'Model T guy' - so, it is very interesting to see all of the European ideas that Henry put into the 'T'. The Clement Bayard was a very rugged vehicle for its day. three speeds forward one reverse with a conventional 'clutch'. 'Bosch' Magneto (correct for the car and imprinted with Clement Bayard) - car is very, very correct - all numbers matching throughout - Adolph Clement (Bayard) invented the Blimp / Derigible in early 20th century after the automobile. The Headlamps are Bleriot - Great Brass lamps and VERY thick convex lenses. Bleriot made his money in the lamp business but, is best known as the first person to fly across the English Channel in July 1909 - The 'story' goes: He got to the coast of France . . asked "Which way to England"? and off he went! He climbed into the plane with crutches because of an earlier crash . . . oh . .and 'crashed' into England . . . but all that counted is . . he WAS first!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bkazmer Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 I suggest you contact them directly - They were a restoration shop in Ontario before the auction business. They are pretty easy folks to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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