redhededrebel Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Hello everyone and thanks in advance for any help given!!!Long story short---friends recently bought salvage yard---mostly reclamation--when bought had over 300 antique/classic vehicles on property---now down to about 150 or soDue to some major medical issues in the family, they are short handed so I am trying to identify these vehicles as much as possible to facilitate disposal whether by sales or scrapping.I have a few questions and please forgive my ignorance!!!! First.....what is the difference between a "Classic" and "Antique" ??Second....are there any guidelines for determining if a vehicle is worth trying to restore?? Such as amount of rust/corrosion; condition of body parts/chrome/interior; age??Third...I have noticed a small plate in the engine compartment of some cars....it lists maker, body style, paint, etc.....does it also provide the year of manufacture? If not, where would I look besides the inside of the drivers door panel?And Lastly, (for now anyway!) is it more feasible to sell these cars whole or should I just remove usable parts and sell them as such??Any help offered will be greatly appreciated.......Gina....aka the redhededrebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Gina,Let me suggest something... Contact the AACA region in your local area. They will have knowledgeable people who can give the answers you seek. They can help you identify the vehicles, and what is restorable and not restorable, etc.Here is a full list of regions and chapters:http://www.aaca.org/regions/list.aspx#ALPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Walling Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 If you suspect that a car is of a certaint year and model, simply type in thename into Google and it will give several sites to see a picture of that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Cullen Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Don't crush anything, even the smallest odd part can be worth keeping if not for use, just as a pattern to make a copy. Great suggestion about contacting a local AACA chapter! many times a car that is pretty much a rusted hulk can have value well above it's scrap value as a parts wagon or donor vehicle for somone restoring a similar model. Sometimes a junked vehicle will have something original and unmolested on it that can be an assembly reference too.BTW, hotrodders will sometimes be interested in body shells even with rusted frames, no drivetrain or interior, etc. Posting photos side, front and rear view will get enough responses to ID many of them. most everybody here will chip in with some help to at least get you in the ballpark on year and make. It might also help prevent selling a rare and valuable piece for next to nothing due to mis identifying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Gina, What is your goal? If you just want to get rid of the stuff that is one thing, if they are pre 1965 vehicles you can part them out and live happily ever after. The key is having the space to store them while you unbolt and cut things up. PARTS are always worth more than the whole car. Go to eBay, type in 1960 Chevrolet in the Search Window and see what some little widget is selling for. If you just went through the yard and took off airfilters you probably are looking at $2,000. in sales, light and easy to box too.<img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted June 19, 2006 Author Share Posted June 19, 2006 Thanks so much for the advice you all have given!!! I really appreciate it and I am sure you will be seeing a lot more of me in the near future!!!! I will certainly contact my local chapter and then go buy a case of WD40 to loosen bolts!!!!!Y'all keep your heads up and rubber downnnnnnn!!!!!Gina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 so these people want to sell the whole lot of them ? where are they and about how much do they want for allllll of them ? if you have pictures , email tghem to me , if you would . thanks . vinceolsonlabs@excite.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted July 19, 2006 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hi 8Ball!! I tried send pics to the addy you listed but they came back. Do you still want to see them? They are located in Central Texas.Regina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Gina - Would there be any Amphicars in there? Here is a photo of one. Look in the under the back for 2 plastic propellors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Green Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 John, I haven't seen you in person since Celina 04 however from the looks of the photo you are now wearing a suit while driving amphi and your hair seems to be thinning. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />One of the amphi's in my area that I have been trying to obtain was just sold to someone we both know, has a lot of parts and lives out in the far west. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 HG? That Ba$tard! I lost one to RV who pulled some of his BS. I know how ya feel! Now watch the comments on my hair! (the suit was rented cheap becuase of the velcro down the back, hummm? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Gina--one of your questions has gone unanswered, I'll jump in and try to explain. You asked "what is the difference between a "Classic" and "Antique" ??"An antique car is generally a car (regardless of make) that is 25 years and older. opinions vary slightly on that, wood-wheel guys don't like to think of a '71 Nova as an antique, but to many, it is. The term "Classic" is the most problematic adjective in the old car hobby. Every TV news crew doing a "gee-wiz" piece on the local summer car show identifies each and every 55 Chevy as a "Classic"-ditto for the newspaper writers. According to the Classic Car Club of America (CCCA), a "Classic car" is a limited production, premium make car produced between 1925 and 1948, and they have an extensive list of cars that they deem "classics"--not all cars made in those years qualify. Not all models from a given manufacturer qualify either. The term "Calssic" has undergone so much misuse (in their eyes) that they have copyrighted the term "true classic" to further segregate their "defined premium cars" from every 65 Mustang and 57 Chevy. It is best to avoid the term altogether, rather to use "antique" or "vintage", unless you have verified from their list that the car is indeed a "true Classic". It will give you more cred with the hobby in general. That's all the time I have to write now, I have to get back to working on my classic 1963 Chevy II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Guess the value of my three '63 Chevy IIs just went up. Someone used the word classic to describe one!! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Novaman--in the words of Foghorn Leghorn (my personal role model) "that's a joke, son" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I know. I just couldn't resist the temptation to post it. The real joke is when you look at my three cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moepar Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Obviously you haven't seen any of my cars, Novaman! You'd still be laughing! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 HEHEHE boy.....y'all are ALL nutz!!! guess I'll fit right in....sorry John, but no amphicars here so far...did find a Cadillac boat tho! Also have a few others I will try and get pics of today....need help with them....MRPUSHBUTTON.....TY TY TY!!!! your information cleared up a lot for me!!! It has been confusing ...you mentioned a "list" of what the CCCA deems "classic" or "true classic" ... is it a list available to the general public???Okay....I am going to try and figure out how to get a few pics on here...need a bit of help them so y'all stay tuned please!!!!Thanks again MRPUSHGina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Cullen Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 here is a link to the ccca's list of approved "full classics" http://www.classiccarclub.org/CarList.htmbe sure to wipe your feet, change into formalwear, and keep your pinky in the air over there! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 and be sure to wear the red hat with the patch, and gripe about the price of every part, and how you used to buy a bushel basket of them for $5 in 196X, and how .......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 1963 Chevrolet Chevy II 100 Series Station Wagon1963 Chevrolet Chevy II 400 Series Nova 2drhtp 1963 Chevrolet Chevy II 400 Seriws Nova 4dr sedan (AACA HPOF car - was at Asheville) I was at work and couldn't get the images to work right so waited until I was home to try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Gina - Thanks for checking on the Amphis. Send me some photos of the Cadillac boat (rma@amphicar.com) if you would please! I am interested in any old glass boats with headlights and/or fins too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted July 29, 2006 Author Share Posted July 29, 2006 Hi john....Haven't forgotten about you....had to go out of town on emergency and just returned.....will take pics of boats here and get them to you tomorrowGina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDude Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Hey, come on, Gina, we want to see the pictures of the boat, too....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forduvorot Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Here the information on old and antique cars Fordhttp://fordcarslover.cloud.prohosting.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hi guys......please tell me how to post these pictures!!! lol I seem to be having trouble finding info on how to do it!!!!! But here is a partial list of vehicles, some not sure of year:1951 Ford sdn1967 Ford Fairlane 500 w/289 2 dr 3 spd1960 Chevy Biscayne 4 dr sdn style 60-1219AMC Rambler 8 MArlin 2 dr....not sure of yearInternational KB2 van 6 cyl GRD214 serial 264435 chassis 77041Ambassador Super Nash Kelvinator body 5814 model 53661950 Buick Eight 4 dr model 50-431946 Chevy Fleetline 2 dr style 46-1007 body 6-50511957 Chevy SW 210 style 57-1062F (couple of these)Hudson SuperWasp1950 Chevy style 50-1019 Body 3159981957 Chevy Bel Air 4 dr style 57-1019D1970 Ford T-Bird 2 drFord Town Sedan 4 dr serial # M6DT138470 Body 73C1953 Chrysler New Yorker wagon 5-dr has suicide doors <---cool, maybe hearse or taxi???1967 Chevelle SS style 67-16887 003969Ford Crestline 8 Victoria Ford Edsel Ranger body 58DFord (Pacer??) has FoMoCo insignia on glass 1962 Corvair 62-0969 body WR 17357Chevy Corvair Van1962 Econoline van model f100few more Hudsons, AMC Metro's, Mercury Monterrey, Stude Champion, Silver Streak, and more....Am starting to realize that I may be in over my head!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rbl2 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Re: posting pictures, you'll need to have posted your pictures on a web site such as www.photobucket.com and from there you'll be able to post them here. You can load pictures directly from your computer to the website free of charge. Highlight and copy the URL and then coming here where you want to post the picture click on image in the "Instant UBB Code" box. Another window will pop up and then you paste the URL in the space provided. I hope you understood all that. It's really not hard at all. If I can do it, anybody can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 LOL Okay.....as long as there are instructions I think I can do it!!!!! Look for the pics shortly!!!!Thanks, Gina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rbl2 Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 If you have any trouble, let me know. It's really not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhededrebel Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Okay.....I finally managed to get some on. Rocketdude.....you asked how this all came about so a synopsis.....We live in San Antonio. Some friends bought a metal recycling business outside of Austin. On the 23 acres they purchased were over 200 old vehicles (now down to 136). They have 4 daughters (2 months to 11 yrs) and along with the salvage yard and the vehicles there is a Parts Warehouse. The previous owners would buy, then scrap the vehicles after removing what they considered sellable parts. They needed help in trying to identify the vehicles and to make some sense out of the warehouse and parts therein. Unfortunately, the previous owners lost the business due to tax problems and were not happy about it; as a result, they destroyed most paper trails on the vehicles and all the inventory lists that they had. So my job has been to identify what I could, decide on the best course of action for the vehicles and then inventory all the loose parts. And it has been quite a task I can tell ya!!! I have learned more than I ever thought possible about cars and car parts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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