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11 hours ago, Lahti35 said:

I applaud your organizational skills!

And I like your garage!  I can see that lots of work gets done there...  ;)

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Prepping for paint. Masking the bushings and using backer rod for caulking to plug the threaded holes and holes that need to be kept clear of paint  it compresses then expands to fill the space  I used to use old earplugs but this stuff works when I need a bunch of it  IMG_5748.jpeg.e90a24c4c6a83a1739af43502a877f72.jpegIMG_5751.jpeg.ad5072fd217af775a851e82689fbd047.jpegIMG_5750.jpeg.9e8a5153d4f5873fe2180a471da98d36.jpegIMG_5749.jpeg.4a4c06a7a6c3b1a6d8abf26089aab198.jpeg

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3 hours ago, EmTee said:

And I like your garage!  I can see that lots of work gets done there...  ;)

Thank you very much- the space is a welcomed change; 10 years ago I did all my automotive work in a 2 car garage. You CAN do this stuff in a small space but it’s nice to have the room 🙂 

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2 coats epoxy primer on these parts. I’m going to look for a new detail gun- the one I used for the engine is too worn out - and the primer HVLP I used for these parts has too big of a fan. It gets the job done but I think I’m wasting too much primer. IMG_5756.jpeg.edf0b81850e1c62b7b8f61e501778dda.jpegIMG_5754.jpeg.494868e0f95fa108720fce5534d3adea.jpegIMG_5755.jpeg.ed393b1aa5788ae99231866e8ee9dd0a.jpeg

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I have a water separator, oil separator and dessicant filter in this air line for painting in the shop. I added a in line water trap at the gun and still see moisture coming through. Time to change some filters! IMG_5677.jpeg.30891896a04dfb01905c258a034ffc8c.jpegIMG_5759.jpeg.3cd22b75dbc4aae377893ae003d1ca35.jpeg

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So I really labored over the fishplate/ boxing of the frame at the repair areas. There’s a lot going on in that area - I descided to box this section of the frame- 1/4” plate.  I’m certain this is more than enough to bolster this section of the frame IMG_5762.jpeg.449e8a6c5a1ce5efa74f1c852489ed1a.jpegIMG_5765.jpeg.b7a658c8c3b7b26169977ed4be914149.jpegIMG_5767.jpeg.2e94b0320ff09255dcbaca9130a3a84a.jpeg

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For what it’s worth:

 

After I ground down the welds I smacked each box section and said:

“that’s not going anywhere.”

 

so I should be good. 

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Set the frame up for paint- hanging from the lift so I can access the whole thing. I’ve got a bunch of additional cleaning, covering and prep before I epoxy prime. I’ll pick up my chassis paint tomorrow so I might be able to get primer and finish paint on before the weekend. IMG_5790.jpeg.d610490b09f551009226dd2aca1a5c73.jpeg

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Here’s where I landed on chassis paint: PPG acrylic enamel. 15:1 - satin. 

 

It sprays pretty well the low end HVLP gun I have. The shine will “satin out” over the next few hours. 
 

Tomorrow I’ll prep and epoxy prime the frame. If all goes well I’ll get the finish paint on the frame Thursday and start putting these bits back on the frame- Then I’ll dive into the front end.
 

Like eating an elephant: one bite at a time. 
 

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1.5 hours later- paint has set- still very shiny. Not really freaking out yet,  but I was sure it should have started to dull down by now. I’ll check in the AM. 
 

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Ok- so it’s just a scrunch shinier than I was expecting but it’ll do. 


I’ll know for sure when the frame is painted so there’s more surface to look at.

 

its a little deceiving as you look at the pieces from different angles 

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First coat of epoxy primer on the frame. I was a little heavy handed and I see a couple runs. Waiting for it to flash and I’ll give it another coat of primer. IMG_5827.jpeg.edebf873d9c69438ad02e30ddff0fed2.jpegIMG_5829.jpeg.3da9baec97468893ae07b878b4585e9d.jpeg

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Second coat down. I have one spray cup of epoxy left. I’ll check back in 30 minutes and decide if I want to hit any of it for a 3rd time but I’m pretty sure it’s done aside from the cleanup IMG_5832.jpeg.37fdb28929a933ab3beef5383b4363f3.jpegIMG_5833.jpeg.c9ecd26f98489dadbf57c16c2986365d.jpeg

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Photos after 3rd coat. I looked at the frame this morning and I’m good to get paint on it tonight. I’m not vain enough to Let a small run get to me. I swiped it with some tape when I saw it as I was spraying so it’s not that bad. Onward! 
 

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First coat of finish paint on the frame I think I mixed up way too much. I mixd 32 ounces and I think I’m going to have a lot left over.  First coat went on really well. I had to concentrate on not laying down too heavy. Letting that First coat tack up for the second coat. I’ll spray that in about 15 minutes.IMG_5847.jpeg.a073ba520c9f46d667eea89494685c31.jpegIMG_5848.jpeg.53a40385dbe4e9fa94b6742ab30ade16.jpeg

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Correction. I mixed 48 oz and used 32

 

Thats a wrap on frame paint. Probably won’t be back in the shed until Saturday. At least won’t touch the frame until then. I might start to get the brake assembly together but it’ll be a few days at least to let the paint cure. The brake components are no longer dentable with a fingernail so they’re getting there. 
 

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The advantage to using the backer rod in the threaded holes- after paint it just pops out and you’re ready to go. I was making sure I have enough grease fittings for the brake assembly components. I’m not sure which ones would be better off with 45 degree fittings- I’ll swap out for what makes sense after the assembly is back in the frame. 
 

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Mounted the brace, motor mounts, battery box, and front shackle pivots (?) started assembling the brake assembly. Man it’s hot out…

 

I like the iron oxide finish on the bolts/nuts. 

 

ill pick up again tomorrow with the brake assembly. 
 

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Brake assembly is in- took me a bit to get it assembled right- lots of checking pictures I took prior to disassembly. There’s one tip- lots and lots of pictures. Same part- different angles- the more pictures the less trouble you’ll have weeks or months down the road. 
 

Finally cleared all the painted hanging bits. One lever arm had fallen off the bench and did not get painted so that’ll be part of the next batch. 
 

sandblasting the front and rear suspension bits next. 
 

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There looks to have been a post/stop bolted to the frame just forward of the outboard brake lever arms. 
 

you can barely make it out in the photo  any info would be helpful  - I’ve gotta look through my parts bags and see if I can find these

 

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Cleaned up the shackle bolts and started on the front suspension. Removed the front leaf springs, sandblasted and epoxy primed them today- along with the brake arm I forgot to paint and front rear shackle brackets, U-bolts, and bump stop plates. 
 

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Tim: You have to review this film to see how the similar Durant/Star cars were being assembled in the mid 1920s Hot riveting with long hand held rivet bucks. It is on the general site.

1924 Durant Leaside Ontario Film

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On 5/27/2024 at 10:57 AM, dibarlaw said:

 

This is about my 1925 Standard but the ball studs should be the same for your 1927.  I believe I will do a procedural story on the replacement of my very bad tie rod ball studs. It got more involved than I wanted. But one of the most important things in our Buick hobby world is SPARE PARTS.  Also, interesting that the drag link on the axle I acquired from Oregon .....
   DSC01381.jpg.5345f7dc88c88b02eceefc4a4c85e2fa.jpgwas a different design than my 1925 below.
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The new stud on the right compared to the old left side stud.
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 I measured the new sphere diameter as .995. The largest unworn area on the original was 1.000. Some areas over .025" loss of material. The rest had flat spots and looked more like a bowling pin.
 The much better leather cover retaining springs and covers I robbed from the Oregon Tie rod. Both of what was on My 1925 "Beulah" were thoroughly mangled. Note the anti-rattle device that was clamped to my tie rod.
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While cleaning everything up I found that the studs and cups in the Oregon axle were in much better shape
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Still showing wear, not perfect but serviceable and closer to a sphere in shape than what was in mine. My cups were pretty scored.
 I got the right side off last night and it was worse than the left side. What was on my car.
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So, I have the very good Oregon covers, springs, newly made leathers and cups with the new ball studs installed. The tie rod was also bent a bit.
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Hey.... my son Mark thought that I needed a Hydraulic press. 
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 Finished installation.
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As I’m going through my next steps on the front end - I realize my assembly is missing the springs. Are there any venders that carry these? Or am I looking at finding originals from a donor front end? 

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As I look through photos of my steering components I see a couple of these joints have the springs but one is missing - along with leather seal and cover  see photo:

 

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I’ll have a look again tonight. 

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Tim:

The springs can be sourced but the covers would have to be found or fabricated. I made up the leather seals. Many cars used this set up. Possibly Chevrolet suppliers (The Filling Station).

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1 hour ago, dibarlaw said:

Tim:

The springs can be sourced but the covers would have to be found or fabricated. I made up the leather seals. Many cars used this set up. Possibly Chevrolet suppliers (The Filling Station).

Thank you- I’ve done a quick search on bobs and didn’t see the springs- I’ll dig in and keep searching. I think I can swing the leather seals. Still anxious to see what the ball ends look like after I get more of it taken down. 

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Quick night in the shed- removed the front backing plates. Also got a peek at one of the ball studs. So far so good. 
 

not a lot done tonight but I’m further along than I was yesterday. 
 

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I’ve been pleasantly surprised as I dig into parts of this car wear-wise. 
 

kingpins out next and front beam gets sandblasted and primed so I can prime and paint before the weekend- 

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I made an attempt at removing the pins/keepers at the kingpins- they are jammed in there pretty good. More soaking in kroil. 
 

I hit the springs and parts with final coats of paint. I’ll be out of town for a few days so when I’m back I’ll get the springs hung and try to get the kingpins out so I can prep and paint the front beam. 
 

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Back from a few days out of town. I hung the front springs tonight. Does anybody have the components for the front spring rear shackle assembly? I think there should be washers but I don’t think I removed any when I disassembled the front end 

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Next step is fuel tank sand and paint, fuel tank straps prep and paint as well as rear spring rear brackets prepped and paint. These rear brackets are pretty well frozen in the bushings- I did an initial sandblast, then removed the bolts and hit the bushings with kroil. 
 

I painted the gas tank after it came back from the company that boiled/cleaned/sealed it to keep it from rusting - that was several months ago already- time flies! 
 

still working on kingpins as well. 
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