demco32 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 18 hours ago, alsancle said: This is interesting. But it seems like they didn’t quite get the windshield right. Le bon coin is in France France is a big country and there are still antique cars to be found. Like in the usa , repairs are not always done correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/21/2024 at 5:09 AM, 1935Packard said: Sold for $123K at RM last year, I assume because the front end is not attractive. I wonder if the new buyer bought it with the plan to flip it. It's nice with the exception of that front, but the front of car is a pretty big deal, especially on a Delahaye. I think it's really attractive. Not sure what you see that is unpleasant. Certainly much more attractive than this deep-sea-looking monstrosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotiveLensPhoto Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, West Peterson said: I think it's really attractive. Not sure what you see that is unpleasant. Certainly much more attractive than this deep-sea-looking monstrosity. Eye of the beholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, West Peterson said: I think it's really attractive. Not sure what you see that is unpleasant. Certainly much more attractive than this deep-sea-looking monstrosity. I don't think the "narwhal" Delahayes are attractive, either! I've assumed there is some sort of high-end world where it being a wild Figoni design makes it okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Least expensive Delahaye auction price, at least of a running car? Looks to be about $50,000. https://auctions.artcurial.com/auction-lot/1951-delahaye-135-m-coach-gascogne-par-dubos-no-r_37D4E76979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 I take it the catch with this '46 135M is that the bodymaker is unknown, which I assume means it may not have been originally bodied this way. As the catalog puts it, "It wears striking coupé coachwork, the builder of which is not factually known, but has been surmised by some to be of Dutch origin. Although there is nothing to categorically attribute it, perhaps one day further research will quantify this, in any respect it is an appealing aerodynamic coupe in keeping with styling of the immediate pre and post war era, with a number of key features such as side mouldings and finned boot lid." But what a great looking car. No reserve auction in France with an estimate of $175k-$275K, went for only $117,000. Man, at that price, that's a sweet deal. Altough maybe among Delahaye people, not knowing who bodied it is such a big deal that this is what happens. Don't know. https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/29216/lot/149/1946-delahaye-135-m-coupe-chassis-no-800311/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, 1935Packard said: I take it the catch with this '46 135M is that the bodymaker is unknown, which I assume means it may not have been originally bodied this way. As the catalog puts it, "It wears striking coupé coachwork, the builder of which is not factually known, but has been surmised by some to be of Dutch origin. Although there is nothing to categorically attribute it, perhaps one day further research will quantify this, in any respect it is an appealing aerodynamic coupe in keeping with styling of the immediate pre and post war era, with a number of key features such as side mouldings and finned boot lid." But what a great looking car. No reserve auction in France with an estimate of $175k-$275K, went for only $117,000. Man, at that price, that's a sweet deal. Altough maybe among Delahaye people, not knowing who bodied it is such a big deal that this is what happens. Don't know. https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/29216/lot/149/1946-delahaye-135-m-coupe-chassis-no-800311/ A car that striking should have a period photograph. I think your reading of the auction description and the result is probably accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Can't be too hard to figure it out........that car should have been in your garage. Looks nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 11 hours ago, edinmass said: Can't be too hard to figure it out........that car should have been in your garage. Looks nice. In 2018, it no-saled at Bonhams with a $450k to $550k estimate, with at least partially different paint and a more confident claim that it was bodied by Van Leersum. And it looks like someone was either confident enough, or maybe more accurately, wantws others to be confident enough, that they put the coachbuilder's tag on it (in green). Hmm, wonder what the real story is here. https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/24811/lot/95/1946-delahaye-135m-coupechassis-no-800311/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 12 hours ago, alsancle said: A car that striking should have a period photograph. I think your reading of the auction description and the result is probably accurate. Here's a very interesting thread starting in 2009 on the history of Van Leersum Delahayes,much of which is about what to make of this particular car. https://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=186 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 (edited) Two more Delahayes at BAT. This '38 coupe by Chapron outside Paris was up last week but didn't sell. And the blue '46 Guillore coupe that sold for $98K at Monterey in 2022 is now up at BAT. I wouldn't think BAT is a good place to sell these cars. But maybe it's easy enough to try that sellers figure it's worth a shot, even if only to advertise the car? UPDATE: The '46 Guillore has sold on BAT for $92K, plus I assume the 5% buyer's premium, so that's a total of $96.6, almost exactly what it sold for two years ago. Edited March 3 by 1935Packard (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Orin, This car was fantastic in person. Older restoration but the photos don't do it justice with how cool it is in person. https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-8MNOGO/1948-delahaye-type-135-ms-cabriolet lease note that according to a noted marque authority, this Delahaye 135 MS Cabriolet is one of a series of just nine examples built to the highly desirable "Vedette" specification, which included a cockpit designed primarily for two, refined grille design, and other sporting details. It is believed to be one of as few as four in existence and, of those, the sole unrestored example remaining. Beautifully Preserved, Stunningly Proportioned, Largely Unrestored Example Desirable Three-Carburetor, 130 BHP MS Specification Derived from Monte Carlo- and Le Mans-Winning 135 Race Cars Part of The Mullin Collection Since 2000 Offered with Fascinating File of Early Correspondence 3,557 CC OHV Inline 6-Cylinder Engine Three Solex 40PAI Downdraft Carburetors 130 BHP at 4,000 RPM 4-Speed Cotal Pre-Selector Gearbox 4-Wheel Cable-Operated Drum Brakes Front Independent Suspension with Transverse Leaf Spring Rear Live Axle with Semi-Elliptical Leaf Springs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/3/2024 at 8:18 PM, alsancle said: Orin, This car was fantastic in person. Older restoration but the photos don't do it justice with how cool it is in person. https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-8MNOGO/1948-delahaye-type-135-ms-cabriolet lease note that according to a noted marque authority, this Delahaye 135 MS Cabriolet is one of a series of just nine examples built to the highly desirable "Vedette" specification, which included a cockpit designed primarily for two, refined grille design, and other sporting details. It is believed to be one of as few as four in existence and, of those, the sole unrestored example remaining. Beautifully Preserved, Stunningly Proportioned, Largely Unrestored Example Desirable Three-Carburetor, 130 BHP MS Specification Derived from Monte Carlo- and Le Mans-Winning 135 Race Cars Part of The Mullin Collection Since 2000 Offered with Fascinating File of Early Correspondence 3,557 CC OHV Inline 6-Cylinder Engine Three Solex 40PAI Downdraft Carburetors 130 BHP at 4,000 RPM 4-Speed Cotal Pre-Selector Gearbox 4-Wheel Cable-Operated Drum Brakes Front Independent Suspension with Transverse Leaf Spring Rear Live Axle with Semi-Elliptical Leaf Springs As I walked through the "French tent", actually all five tents, this is the car that I would have wanted to take home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 38 minutes ago, West Peterson said: As I walked through the "French tent", actually all five tents, this is the car that I would have wanted to take home. I see you have the same excellent taste that I have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demco32 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 2/6/2024 at 1:45 PM, alsancle said: A car that striking should have a period photograph. I think your reading of the auction description and the result is probably accurate. the models 148L (long chassis, 90 hp), 135M (short chassis, 110 hp) and 135MS (short chassis, 130 hp). Almost all chassis went to the Pennock bodywork factory in The Hague, to be fitted with a body. Most of these were designed by Cees Akkermans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 2/6/2024 at 7:28 PM, 1935Packard said: In 2018, it no-saled at Bonhams with a $450k to $550k estimate, with at least partially different paint and a more confident claim that it was bodied by Van Leersum. And it looks like someone was either confident enough, or maybe more accurately, wantws others to be confident enough, that they put the coachbuilder's tag on it (in green). Hmm, wonder what the real story is here. https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/24811/lot/95/1946-delahaye-135m-coupechassis-no-800311/ It's a shame about the baby-shit brown color they added. It looked soooo much better as a one-color car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, West Peterson said: It's a shame about the baby-shit brown color they added. It looked soooo much better as a one-color car. It was added by the time of the 2018 auction, although since made a one-color car (as it was in the latest auction). Agree with you, though, it looks better in one color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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