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We don't have a CCCA forum thread on Delahayes, so I figured I would start one.  I think a lot of CCCA-eligible Delahayes (Series 135, 145, 148, 165) are just stunning to look at.  I'd be interested in any opinions of them as actual cars to drive. Are they reliable, are parts available in the U.S., etc?  Certainly not performance cars, but curious how they drive. Also interested in views of the Delahaye market.  It seems that prices vary dramatically based on coachbuilder (as one would expect), but I don't know if there are rules of thumb about what the market looks for.   

 

More broadly, just figured we need a Delahaye thread. 

 

 

 

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This should be an interesting thread. There are conservative makes, and more flamboyant makes, and then there is Delahaye. Never to be accused of being shy.

 

This car traded hands at auction recently and I enjoyed reading and following the media presentation of it.


https://worldwideauctioneers.com/listings/scottsdale-auction-2022/1935-delahaye-135-m/

 

 

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3 hours ago, John Bloom said:

This should be an interesting thread. There are conservative makes, and more flamboyant makes, and then there is Delahaye. Never to be accused of being shy.

 

I only know what I Google, but I think my favorites so far are the 135 cars by the likes of Pennock and Chapron.  Really beautiful lines, but not so flamboyant that it no longer seems to be a functioning car.   I love this design by Pennock: 

 

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Or this by Chapron: 

 

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One more question to add to the mix: How do you learn more about Delahayes?  I know of only one English-language book that covers them in detail, the Mullin Museum's, "French Curves - Delahaye, Delage, & Talbot-Lago," but it's $150 to buy.  Is anything else good? There are videos on youtube, but I don't see much in terms of books, etc.

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Orin, I need to take you to a collection in the mid west that has a bunch of them. 

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6 hours ago, alsancle said:

There are two or three of these bodies.   RM sold one at Amelia about 5 years ago.   I was lusting after that one too.

 

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Beautiful.  The coachbuilder wasn't too worried about whether drivers behind you would see your taillights, I gather. 

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I like the post war units also. They still had some decent coachbuilding on their chassis.  

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Here are three in the Mullin Museum in Oxnard, CA.  For more about the blue 1937 Type 145 race car, read the book "Faster" by Neal Bascomb.  I think one could reasonably call these "performance cars".

 

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17 minutes ago, Gary_Ash said:

Here are three in the Mullin Museum in Oxnard, CA.  For more about the blue 1937 Type 145 race car, read the book "Faster" by Neil Bascomb.  I think one could reasonably call these "performance cars".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gary, thumbs up to Faster. 
 

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A wonderful book about a true gentleman racer. Met him once. He was very approachable. I asked him to sign my copy. Then I asked questions regarding a Bugatti I was working on that he drove. He recounted races and answered all my questions. Good guy. He raced Delahaye cars. That’s him in the Type 145 when he won the the Prix Du Million.FF26EBF5-E938-45BC-96AE-AFD931DEB374.jpeg.de163507df1599b325188f0a9554bb70.jpeg

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Thanks for the heads up about the Curbside Classics article! Few articles done on the make and Delage as well.; I have a fair amount of material and period photographs on Delehaye and Delage that would be enough for a decent commentary but all of that takes time to do and then find a place to see it in print   Something that could never appear in our AACA magazine due to lack of space.

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4 hours ago, Walt G said:

Thanks for the heads up about the Curbside Classics article! Few articles done on the make and Delage as well.; I have a fair amount of material and period photographs on Delehaye and Delage that would be enough for a decent commentary but all of that takes time to do and then find a place to see it in print   Something that could never appear in our AACA magazine due to lack of space.

Walt:

The author of this article, Tatra87, has written a number of well-researched and presented articles on obscure foreign makes which are worthwhile reads.   Many are under the "Deadly Sin" title as the particular series lead to the demise of the nameplate.    Not that you need more to fill your time, but I believe you'll find his articles are worth your time.

Steve

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16 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said:

Fantastic article!  Thanks for posting, I learned a lot.

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Here is one from my archives/library - at the Paris Salon , I have so many period photographs of European and American cars at the annual four European auto Salons held , plus all the ones shown in OMNIA magazine that I have a full run of from 1920 to 1931 ( it was a monthly high grade quality auto periodical). Details for these cars can be found in the inch plus thick souvenir programs sold at the salons , and I have a run of those as well for the pre war years.  To much stuff , to many stories that are waiting to be told by taking the time and effort to assemble the history puzzle.

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7 hours ago, 1935Packard said:

Fantastic article!  Thanks for posting, I learned a lot.

 

Tell your wife she doesn't need that new car or kitchen remodel. It's much more urgent you buy a French custom bodied car...........😛

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On 7/16/2022 at 8:26 AM, Walt G said:

Here is one from my archives/library - at the Paris Salon , I have so many period photographs of European and American cars at the annual four European auto Salons held , plus all the ones shown in OMNIA magazine that I have a full run of from 1920 to 1931 ( it was a monthly high grade quality auto periodical). Details for these cars can be found in the inch plus thick souvenir programs sold at the salons , and I have a run of those as well for the pre war years.  To much stuff , to many stories that are waiting to be told by taking the time and effort to assemble the history puzzle.

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Delahayes used sooo many different bumper designs. This car captures my attention, because it looks so similar to the one my grandfather bought. Same bumpers and fog lights, and apparently same coachbuilder --- Chapron.

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It's interesting the European coachbuilders figured out how to build B-pillarless touring coupes decades before the idea occurred to American automakers to clamp a hardtop on a convertible body.  Although it might seem a minor change, it increases the appeal of what can otherwise be a rather prosaic body style.

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On 7/16/2022 at 6:25 AM, edinmass said:

 

Tell your wife she doesn't need that new car or kitchen remodel. It's much more urgent you buy a French custom bodied car...........😛

 

I will be sure to tell her, le temps presse!   But she will just laugh at my ability to use Google Translate.

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1939 Delahaye 135MS Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi and the Triple Tree Aerodrome's 1938 Spartan 7W Executive in the Aero Expo at the 2019

Hilton Head Island Concours d'Elegance & Motoring Festival.

 

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1939 Delahaye 135MS Cabriolet by Figoni & Falaschi and the Triple Tree Aerodrome's P-51 Mustang, "Tempus Fugit".

 

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TG

 

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The two Delahayes at the RM Sotheby's Monterey auction: 

 

1) The 1950 Delahaye 180 Transformable Cabriolet by Franay had a $200k-$250K estimate and went for $318,500 including buyer's premium.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo22/monterey/lots/p0017-1950-delahaye-180-transformable-cabriolet-by-franay/1252969

 

2) The 1946 Delahaye 135 M Coach by Guilloré had a $100k-$150K estimate and went for $98K.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo22/monterey/lots/p0016-1946-delahaye-135-m-coach-by-guilloré/1252975

 

I love that '46 coupe.  Seems a great deal at that price for a collector who is open to closed car.   

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