Mr. Reed Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 Some progress today. Fuel pump is in, crankcase vent for engine and the generator bracket is bolted in. Next step is the head and valvetrain needs to be put on the engine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 Does this car have a insulator barrier on the firewall at one time? I've seen a listing online for one. I believe it's a one piece molded unit but have never seen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Yes there is supposed to be an insulator under the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr. Reed said: Does this car have a insulator barrier on the firewall at one time? I've seen a listing online for one. I believe it's a one piece molded unit but have never seen one. Inside. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ok so only one on the inside not the outside like newer cars have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Correct Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick35 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 My 35 didn't have the box or canister but it dose have the vent on the drivers side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 11/6/2022 at 2:53 PM, Mr. Reed said: Some progress today. Fuel pump is in, crankcase vent for engine and the generator bracket is bolted in. Next step is the head and valvetrain needs to be put on the engine. Nick, I hope I am not too late. That is a pretty painted engine. Hopefully the area behind the motor mount bracket on the passenger side and the back of the bracket were left shiny bare. Paint is not a good electric conductor and this is where the battery grounds. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 So the part that needs to be bare. Is it the big bracket where the engine mount puck sits in the passenger side or on the engine itself ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr. Reed said: So the part that needs to be bare. Is it the big bracket where the engine mount puck sits in the passenger side or on the engine itself ? Both where they touch. Passenger side. I sanded the engine block to bare metal and the back of the bracket to bare metal. Also, two of the four bracket mounting bolt holes are "through" holes. I failed to use sealer on those bolts and they LEAKED! I took them out and used thread sealer on the bolt threads. Ben 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 While I'm at it I'm gonna have the engine bay painted satin black. The firewall the color of the car and the intake tubes, horns and the heater core shell that the tubes attach to gloss black. Is that the correct colors for the car ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 I'm looking at the wire harness as well. It looks pretty ratty in spots. I just want the engine and firewall harness but I got a bad feeling you can only buy the whole car harness. Is that true? Also where can I find one thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 There are 2 main sections to the wire harness. The underdash and engine is one harness and the body and rear harness is the other harness. They plug together at the A piller about 16" up from the floor. There are other smaller harnesses that are needed to finish the job. I won't comment on manufacturers as I don't know who survived covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 the pictures are of the front of the car. There's wiring that goes to the neutral safety switch, starter switch on the carb and brake switch also. Is that included with the body or engine harness. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Those wires will be included in the Main Body and engine harness. This is the harness for under the dash and engine. One supplier used to be Rhode Island, but I have not bought a wiring harness in at 7 years. There is/was another supplier I beileve in Oregon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave39MD Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Y n Z in California is also a great harness supplier. Dave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 Awesome thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 It seems that the wiring harness runs about a thousand dollars. The banker is kinda tight fisted these days so that will have to wait until the cars running again. I don't think it's hard to wire the car with the engine in it. I hope. I am no electrician by any means. My dad is an electrical engineer by trade so I will need help haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterpainter Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 When you decide to take this project, make sure to track which wires go through holes in the firewall. Also note if the wires lay between the firewall and the firewall insulation or if the wires are installed after the firewall insulator is in place. It is also important to note which terminal on the Fuel Sender is the "common" terminal coming off the ignition switch. If you get this wrong you fry the fuel gauge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 I know I've gotten off the engines head part of this article but does anyone have a picture of their hoods underside. I want to know how the hood insulation routes because mine is all gone with just slivers hanging. I bought replacement insulation but can't find any really good pics online. Much appreciated. Also is the underside of the hood to be painted the color of the car or a different shade of black thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 50 Buick hood I mean haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 What interior carpet colors were available for my 1950 Buick also is it 80/20 loop carpet thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 On the firewall there is a seal that goes around the steering column. Anyone reproduce those? Thanks. nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just got the car back last week from the body shop. I had the engine bay painted. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 Is there a difference in a 1950 special vs super engine and headlight wire harness? Both with automatic. I know the special has the 248 and the super has the 263. Any advice is appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Nick, maybe, maybe not. Check your shop manual. Several different diagrams. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 They may be the same schematically, but routing (hence wire lengths) could be different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Ok so I talked to the company who makes that harness I saw on eBay and they said there is two differences. One the car can be a late or early 50 and the heater and defroster knob are spaced apart or right next to each other but that's what I gather so far. What is an early or late? Anyone got a picture of the knobs next to each other ? Thanks. Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Nick, if your hood unlatches with a cable, it is late. If it uses a "key" on the outside, it is early. Mid year change, among others. Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Ok it uses cables. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 My bezel has the knobs seperated. They mentioned some are right next to each other? Never seen that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 On the engine to transmission there is two fill plugs for the convertor that have to be put back in. There is 6 studs in the transmission that look like they may have nuts when it gets to the engine and 6 nuts welded to the back of the engine. Does anyone have a picture of the bolts in the back of the engine thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 7:34 PM, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Nick, maybe, maybe not. Check your shop manual. Several different diagrams. Ben Is the special engine longer than the supers? I am mostly worried about the wire length. I'd hate to buy the harness and have it come up short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Mr. Reed said: Is the special engine longer than the supers? I am mostly worried about the wire length. I'd hate to buy the harness and have it come up short. Engines are same length. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Engines are same length. Ben Is there any significant differences between the two cars as long as they both have heat, turn signals and are both late 50s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The only risk is that some accessory(ies) are located differently and some wire lengths could differ. If the harness is long, no biggie, but if some wire is too short you'll need to splice an extension. If it were my car, I'd probably take the chance and deal with any minor issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 The harness new is 1500 dollars this one is 499 obo. The guy sold the car and didn't need the harness anymore never installed still in the bag. I'm gonna buy it this Friday if it's still for sale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 At that price I'd definitely take a chance. As I said, You can make any needed adjustments after laying it out against the one that you remove. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reed Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 Today I bought the main harness and both headlamp harnesses for around 480 dollars. I can't wait for them to come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Now the fun begins... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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